The original numbers were 4-6 million, it's only recently been corrected to 13 million by some sources.
4-6 million is pathetic. 13 million is a lot better.
Of course I'm negative when it looks like less than 2 out of 100 of you can be arsed to oppose fascism.
Well done for finally waking up, but you haven't done great yet. Keep going. Until Trump and his ilk are gone you haven't achieved anything but let off some steam.
Keep up the momentum!
Is that better? 🥕🥕🥕🥕
Not that it's relevant, but Scotland. A country that is quite good at telling fascists and racists to fuck off.
A country that is welcoming to LGBT people and immigrants.
https://www.gov.scot/policies/lgbti/
https://www.gov.scot/publications/migration-helping-scotland-prosper/
A country, that despite being under the thumb of a colonial power, has still managed to gain its own parliament and enact progressive policies that Westminster opposes.
How? By fucking yelling from the streets! By not accepting what our supposed superiors tell us and demanding better.
That's not how logic works. Jesus Christ. Absolute numbers aren't how you compare these things.
Of course the country with 340m people can get a bigger crowd than the one with 18m.
I know the American education system is underfunded but why over the last two days have I had to argue this point to so many of you?
The Dutch are standing up for others, they could go about their day as if nothing is happening and nothing meaningful would change in their lives. But they chose not to.
Americans are only standing up for themselves, so they don't lose their freedoms. The Dutch protest is therefore more impressive, even with it being a smaller turnout.
If 13m is the true number then that's a lot better! That's 3.86% of the population. Now keep it up! You still have a king as far as I can see, so why did you all go home on Sunday?
People are still being deported, people are still being snatched by masked men, the federal government is still breaking laws and doing what it wants, checks and balances be damned.
Keep the momentum going, depose these fascist fucks!
There's the American spirit!
Emotion and bravado instead of rationality and decorum.
Now go outside and show Trump that same attitude.
If it was 20% we wouldn't be watching the country with the largest nuclear arsenal and the most military bases around the world descend into fascism.
This affects the world but only Americans can do something about it, the rest of us have to convince you to get off your arses and do it.
1.18 - 1.76% of Americans showed up to protest fascism in their own country.
0.82 - 1.09% of Dutch showed up to protest genocide thousands of miles away.
If you can't understand how there's a difference here, between standing up for yourself and standing up for others, I don't know what else to say.
Passive seems to describe the American attitude to democracy as well.
That's an awful lot of excuses for allowing fascism to proliferate.
Democracy isn't just ticking a box every 4-5 years and being done with it.
If you don't want to live under autocracy then you need to actually show up and make your voice heard.
37.5% of the US population could make time to watch the Super Bowl but less than 2% could make time to walk through their town/city centre? Shameful.
For an issue that doesn't effect the Dutch. And yet they still showed up in solidarity, because they have principles, and understand that to live in a democratic country means taking responsibility for its politics and not just voting every 4-5 years.
Americans are being kidnapped, assassinated, and having entire departments shut down, and their turnout isn't much better than the Dutch outraged at what's happening another continent away.
I want them to learn that if they want change they need to do something, instead of giving every excuse under the sun as to why they couldn't show up as has been done in other threads.
This is a good start I guess, but it hasn't done anything to stop Trump and co yet. They need to pump those numbers up.
Less than 2%. So at the moment, by your threshold, no change. America is still on the path of fascism.
It only helps if you're willing to go onto the street and tell Trump and his fascist buddies the same message.
Because otherwise, they'll do far worse than a nerd on the internet telling you to think.
Every one of your complaints stem from Americans not marching in the past. If you want a better life, a better country, more equal distribution of wealth, march! All the excuses you give for people not marching are conditions brought about because your population doesn't generally march in the first place. As a culture, you're so individualised that you forget how to stand up for each other, until it's too late, and blood gets shed. None of us survive in a bubble alone, we all live in communities, we all rely on other people for various things. Unions work because alone we are weak, but together we're strong.
We don't take things like free healthcare for granted, it didn't magically manifest itself, it was fought for by our predecessors. By marching. The same conservative rich fucks that prevent you from having healthcare are consistently trying to remove it from us. We have regular industrial action, attempting to prevent them from taking it away from us.
Do the same.
We have bullshit anti-protest laws too, we still manage to enact change though.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/uk-alarming-crime-and-policing-bill-yet-another-assault-right-peacefully-protest
American democracy tends to be passive. You vote red or blue every now and then and that's it. The politicians handle the rest. In Europe there's more to democracy than just voting for your representative. Learn from us, claw your freedoms back. For starters, demand a real democracy where you can vote for more than just 2 choices.
The Arab Spring managed to enact change at least, No Kings hasn't achieved anything yet. I hope it will, but so far the fascists still run the country.