John Green: Yikes!
deaf_fish
What is the difference between fascism and ultra-fascism? Everything you listed for ultra-fascism can and does occur under fascism.
I’ll reiterate that I reject the premise as a false dichotomy
Great, what option am I missing? Without a democracy what options do we have other than revolution (I also don't like but it is preferable to no democracy)?
with the option of 20 years of fascism there’s a chance of ending up like modern Spain and a possibility for some people that I love and care about to survive (and continue to fight for a more just world)
I get it, you are afraid of losing your love ones dying or being sent to a camp. Me too. What stops that from happening under fascism? Are your family and friends white? Listen, non-Jew Germans got put into camps too at Nazi Germany. Some people are more safe than others, but no one is safe. Due process is already gone. You're either with them or against them, and my friend, this post you made is more than enough to send you a very fun place if they find you.
It’s easy to get myopic and not see or empathize with the millions that would be impacted.
I am not, I hate this. I have already said this. Empathy is what drives me to accelerationism.
There’s 340M people in the US, 170M of which require a prescription medication at a given time....
My friend, the US has already started a trade war with the world. There isn't really any coming back from this. Even if I wasn't an accelerationist, people are already going to die. Lots of them. The die is already cast here. Fascism started the trade war.
Sure, the intention looks better but, by measure of total human cost, it is kinda hard to see accelerationism as the lesser of evils here.
Do you not think fascism kills/harms people or do you not think the US is a fascist state? Listen, to be a moral net good, all accelerationism needs to do is to harm/kill one less person than lasting fascism would. I think that is pretty doable seeing as US fascism will affect the world.
As the proverb goes: “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
Right back at you Friend!
Additionally, (I can’t emphasize or repeat this enough) there’s no historical data to suggest that accelerationism doesn’t just end up with straight-up fascism
I agree, also, the US is currently (already) a fascist state! Do you think Trump is going to let an election remove himself from power? I am open to reverting out of my accelerationism if I feel like we are in a democracy again. So we will have to see how midterms and the next presidential elections look. But it isn't looking great.
None of it is ok/acceptable. It's about minimizing harm. It's picking between eating a shit cupcake or a 3 course meal of shit. There is no non-shit option.
What would you pick, 20 year of fascism or 1 year of accelerationism? If you choose 20 years of fascism to keep your hands clean, then you are the one who is "fucked up".
I see. Sorry I took it the wrong way.
I think that is what we have been trying to do and I think we will continue to do so. Suffering gets people to look for other answers, when they go looking I hope they find ours. If they don't well, we are headed to a revolution either way. I am not looking forward to a revolution, but I don't think we can avoid it at this point in time.
True, these are valid problems.
Here is how I do it and yes I know I am very privileged.
- Have a DISCORD with everyone who might attend in it.
- Pick 3-4 dates at least a month in advanced. Have people list witch dates work for them. Pick the one with the most open spots.
- Tell my work building supervisor that I want to use our training room for a LAN party (We have a good history of this and it brings in other coworkers. So like team building stuff).
- (Optional but effective and makes it seems like you have a plan) Draw up a tentative schedule with which games you are playing and how long you are going to be playing. Add Chill Time/Extension time in case people want a break between games or want to play more.
Good Luck!
Your right, but I think my point still stands. In order for that to be meaningful, the number of Americans that were Palestinian would have be such that it would swing an election. I don't think they make a significant voting block. So I don't think you can say the white shirted guy is representative of that.
I just think it's racists being stupid.