solidheron

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[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 0 points 17 hours ago

That's cool, but you're still commanded to hate in the biblical sense by jesus what you changes but you still have to do it.

You can look at Jesus telling you to both sell and/or give up everything as a test, but you still gotta do it. Like you can say a litteral test to get a certificate is there to test your aptitude but you still gotta pass the test.

I also had a revelation that ownership is a time/culture dependant and God's deciding after people been owning things for thousands of years at that point to say "give up everything"

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago

Did anyone think this wasn't a distraction from the Epstien files

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

I figured someone would. I was thinking of using a stone to break a nut or stand up a pot. If you leave the stone were you found it, it's not like you own the stone.

But then we're does it go from using something to owning something. Seems ownership would be more of a legal distinction or ownership is emotional attachment

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Ikr. Like offer the other cheek wasn't meant to show you passivism but like this way to get people you don't like to use a other hand in a taboo way. I guess I have to assume it's more correct interpretation since it's relevant for that culture.

At this point Jesus can "you have to do X" and it get interpreted as a point for how you should live and think.

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

I was also thinking that followers must have been super poor. Since massage of give up everything and you'll be rewarded would resonated to literal beggars or people who had nothing. Comes off as high yield return for the poor

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Jesus kinda is weirdly enough. Like give up everything kinda explicit and the reward in heaven implies that however you live in this life will only be temporary suffering. So you could die in a ditch and life again in heaven. Heaven and God is what really matters.

But it's weird like you can use things without owning them. Like they could give the shirt off their own back to someone that needs it just like they could presumably get it and I wouldn't consider them owning the shirt just using it. Same goes for the phone too.

I'm not complaining about them having anything. It's just odd that Jesus says give up everything but there work arounds because you can still use things without owning them

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

He was since money and clothes are included in everything

Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide yourselves with purses that will not wear out, an inexhaustible treasure in heaven, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.

Jesus being more explicit to his disciples about selling everything.

Like these are explicit things Jesus is requiring people to do. It's not a metaphor to hate your family and your own life. Your actually supposed to do it.

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

If I learned I would forget over time

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

That sounds super frustrating. Hopefully you didn't get that prosperity gospel nonsense. I could imagine people being like "you ain't rich so you didn't get God's blessing"

Well robberies are very rare. No one says they they thwarted a mugging last week, plus really dangerous places are like a few blocks big, so you could just walk or drive around the worst of the worst.

If you robbed in your house, I'd just say lock whatever door your in and call the cops, robberies tend to be quick so they'll go after what's easy.

If you're mugged is suggest looking your mugger in the face, talking casually, or comply with their demands.

Is that just a rhetorical question?

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Guess xenophobia is how you make people vote against their own interests

 

Im still a salty biznatch about a street preacher saying they didn't have to sell everything they down because Jesus said to one disciple and in that context yeah Jesus said it to that disciple.

Turns out that Jesus did say that you have to give up everything luke 14:25-33

The Cost of Discipleship (Matthew 8:18–22; Luke 9:57–62; John 6:59–66)

Now large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and He turned and said to them, 26“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be My disciple. 27And whoever does not carry his cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple.

Which of you, wishing to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost to see if he has the resources to complete it? 29Otherwise, if he lays the foundation and is unable to finish the work, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, 30saying, ‘This man could not finish what he started to build.’

Or what king on his way to war with another king will not first sit down and consider whether he can engage with ten thousand men the one coming against him with twenty thousand? And if he is unable, he will send a delegation while the other king is still far off, to ask for terms of peace.

In the same way, any one of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be My disciple.

But does anyone see a Christian legitimately follow this commandment from Jesus

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