whatiswrongwithyou

Apologies for the late reply, sometimes I’m not in a good spot to chase down leaks about cop shit.

As of at least 2021 cellebrite claims they have the ability to access xiaomi and huawei devices, listing explicitly the soc and baseband chips used by the very phones you are claiming are safe because of their lack of amerisraieli death pact ties.

A famous leak of their support matrix from 2024 confirms this and also explicitly groups android devices by their soc/baseband chips. Reenforcing that the chips ostensibly with no ties to the amerisraeli death cult are not any more secure or private than ones with those ties.

The point of those is to quickly draw a line that connects the past to the present. We see the same claims, then the affirmation of those claims reported by a third party.

I think in a vacuum, assuming perfectly spherical semiconductor manufacturing industries and leaving software out of the picture, the point you’re trying to make is the most materialist take: you can’t trust the imperialists tech, the masters tools cannot be used to tear down the plantation, etc.

In our present day with a hundred years plus of semiconductor manufacturing history encompassing real countries whose attitudes towards one another and development have changed significantly during that span, given reliable information about the explicit capacities western (and lest be serious here, any) le or intelligence apparatus has, the most materialist take is that there’s more to the choice of what device to trust than where the chips come from.

To butcher a car metaphor, what you’re saying is similar to people claiming buying and driving a Tesla is better than a BYD because you can’t trust Chinese tech. That idea might be fine (or chauvinist) in a bubble but when we can evaluate the Tesla and BYD for ourselves in a parking lot or on the road we might come away with wildly different ideas.

Technology has to be evaluated based on its capabilities and how it’s being used when that’s possible and I would argue it’s extremely possible in the case of security in phones and that if you think you’re gonna be scooped by the cops you need to be on graphene, the latest ios or maybe a pixel with the latest android.

From cellebrite’s own documentation (on the first page, of a sales pdf, which was the second or third google result):

Supported devices include Huawei H1611, Xiaomi Mi 5, ZTE Z832 Sonata 3 and ZTE Z981 ZMax Pro

I’m, again, not as familiar with huawei and xiaomi product lines and whatnot as I am with the iphones and pixels so I can’t speak to the popularity of specific ones implicated in just that bullet point and the doc I quoted from is at least seven years old, however I do know that many more chinese devices are accessible with these cop metasploit tools.

The idea that backdoors can be grouped by what nation state intelligence apparatus has control over the manufacturing of the device in question is good reasoning when we have no other information to go off of. In this case though, there is a wealth of information public, leaked and from people who just can’t help but warthunder their classified documents in fights online.

I would never suggest American/israeli tech power should be accepted as a net positive or reasonable compromise. What I want is for people to critically and carefully consider the devices they trust based on what we know about intelligence apparatuses ability to compromise them as opposed to the fog of information war.

I mean, if your goal is to make people as safe from the police as possible as simply as possible then the cellebrite and graphite leaks would steer you towards the last few generations of pixels and any iphone that can get the latest os.

That’s not to say graphene isn’t a fantastic choice, I use it daily and it’s secure from law enforcement hardware, just that the leaked capability matrixes consistently indicate that cops can’t break into appropriately secured iphones and specific android phones as well.

Which is really useful knowledge to have and build your behaviors around that would be completely missed if someone were to base their choice of device around what doesn’t have Israeli connections first.

That’s a pretty recent change, but I take your point that chip manufacturing with no ties to Israel may exist.

To the main point, while it could be a good idea in theory to avoid devices with chips tied to Israel and the us, in practice that would lead people away from iphones and pixels that do best against graphite and cellebrite which would be bad.

You have a bunch of answers including one you chose, but you can always rebind the tmux key to something compatible with your terminals search and use [key] - d to disconnect from your tmux session then invoke it with tmux attach-session to get back into your session.

on attach it should clear the screen, print the stdout buffer it accumulated and give me stdin prompt, that’s it

The last part of the above, disconnecting from tmux and reattaching would do what you described. That may be useful if you need to work with tmux.

Huawei famously ran an Israel office for a long time, idk about xiaomi but smic usually works in nations they’re sanctioned in through shells like (at least in the past) Israel microwave company.

The point isn’t to find the one pure company but to recognize the reality of semiconductor manufacturing and development at this moment being insanely integrated across every imaginable border and take a more nuanced and serious view of the impact a chip could have on your life than “chip tied to Israel, chip and stuff it’s in bad”

That’s not to say your replies could be reasonably distilled down to that mischaracterization, just that I’m hoping people come away thinking they should think of more than weather something has a tie to the bad country.

I don’t know of any modern soc type semiconductor manufacturer without some Israeli connection at least on the level of what’s described in this article “ cooperation with engineers from … development center in Israel”.

Open to being wrong here but I think even manufacturers of non-soc ics like op amps and ttl and discrete components like transistors and diodes have this degree of connection (I’m thinking specifically of onsemi who make all the Fairchild stuff here!)

The headline is more than a little misleading.

Alongside the main processor, the iPhone 17e includes two critical developments by Apple’s silicon teams: The N1 wireless connectivity chip and the C1X cellular modem. These two chips, designed to grant Apple technological independence vis-à-vis external suppliers, were developed in close cooperation with engineers from Apple’s development center in Israel.

It’s not an Israeli chip any more than other chips designed by companies with engineering groups in Israel are.

Which is all of the phone, tablet, laptop and whatever socs and cpus iirc.

It’s also not clear which chip the headline is talking about, so maybe not one to take seriously…

Fifteen years or so. I been using it for at least five of those.

I don’t know about their app, how well they evade blocks or anything like that. It’s 2-3$ a month and only used for port forwarding.

Air has openvpn and port forwarding and is cheap.

What I’m trying to communicate is that in the case of an ai profitability crash or even just the v and a series gpus getting dropped from cuda support (they’re next on the chopping block!) you will suddenly be the slow guy.

People raw dogging the internet aren’t the ones you have to outrun because even twenty years ago there wasn’t a real investigation, they just immediately got prosecuted. In your metaphor they all get caught in camp asleep, you’re running a race against me but you’re wearing cinder blocks for shoes.

It’s <$20 to get a freshtomato or openwrt compatible consumer router from the thrift shop and switch to wg.

My point isn’t to argue or to fight, but to gently inform that you’re maybe missing a crucial piece of the picture and offer a solution. 😘

You may want to migrate away from openvpn with hardware acceleration. It’s my understanding that the type of hardware built to accelerate openvpn uses older crypto processes that are not hardened against parallelization or quantum.

Quantum is fake but parallelization is absolutely not and once it becomes more profitable to pop hashes than to do erp with racks of dgxs people are gonna do it.