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Nothing wrong with Gnome, it’s very good in my book. It’s simple so you can recommend it to a non-tech friend (who does not expect things to look like Windows). Yet it’s powerful enough so you can use it as a power user quite efficiently. KDE is just much more options, if you need them. Not everyone needs, so I think both are welcome to advance and be actively developed.

I may look like someone who don’t like them (and I actually do not like them), but when given a bit of a thought to it, I don’t mind anyone using anything. I just don’t like it when these are recommended to the newcomers. But since I don’t use them, I may be very wrong here, they could advance significantly since the last time I used them. Personally, however, I prefer simpler things like Sway on a low-powered machines. It works really well, the last two devices I tried it with were Windows tablets of 10+ years ago, and it works pretty well. I assume these two would also do well though.

That’s the beauty of open source software: you don’t have to! But tell me why would a newcomer want to have either ‘hello from 80s’ interface or a powerful indeed interface but with a gazillion of bells and switches? That’s where Gnome shines. I can recommend it to anyone who is new. A non-tech friend got it with no training at all. He just said it’s like a tablet. Which is not a bad thing, actually. It’s simple enough for a newcomer to learn quickly. But also powerful enough for someone with 20 years of Linux experience to use daily.

Seriously speaking, while Linux has tremendous issues with user interfaces and experiences about them, I don’t believe Gnome is the worst here. In my opinion it’s rather the opposite. I don’t like KDE for its too much of everything, but otherwise it’s pretty good. And I can see myself using it. I guess to enjoy Gnome you have to use it at least long enough to actually get it. I can believe it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. But come on, most times I’m terrified by what these folks actually like. I use sway wm, but some kind of Xfce / Cinnamon and alike are just in some ‘Windows 3.1 nostalgia’ department in my book.

Gnome has changed since 2014. Just for your information.

What’s an EU iPhone? I have a US AppStore, and have no idea where my iPhone came from, a friend bought it second hand, and I’ve got it from him. And I live in Ukraine today, which is not yet a EU member. Should it be sold in the EU? I don’t understand which factor matters here, looks like purely a software lock-in, isn’t it?

Let’s see what would Neo become in like 5 years on second hand market.

And browser is such a complex piece of software that you cannot just fork it easily and change those things within a weekend with a bunch of unpaid volunteers.

Great observation, I didn’t think of it!

I think the ideal scenario is when you do not destroy the other drone, but take full control of it. Or just take it down (or with you, depending on the location), and at the very least repurpose it for parts for your own drones.

Otherwise very much agree.

Right, forgot someone counts that as Linux. Which it technically is, but is not what we mean when we say Linux on a desktop. For a normie it’s still just a browser on a laptop.

There are countless of paper cuts a normie would get. I’m all for Linux, but I don’t believe it. I’d rather believe Windows would go into oblivion and macOS would take its place with laptops for $200…300 (at least used Neos in like 5 years).