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[–] hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 117 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Snow–free roads seem like a beneficial thing for most modes of transport though.

[–] Beryl@jlai.lu 89 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Judging by that picture, pedestrians can get fucked though.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 25 points 1 day ago

Judging by that picture, pedestrians can get fucked though.

A picture can be deceiving.

That picture is of work being down on a part of Lyon street south of DeVos Performance Hall and Convention center, between Monroe Avenue and the Grand River.

(Don’t let the name fool you, DeVos Hall and DeVos Center are owned by the city. They’re just named after the billionaires who paid a chunk of change for its construction and subsequent renovations.)

The reconstruction there is to make the area much better for pedestrians. There used to be a some parking along that street, which I think when the work will be finished will be purely for valet service for the hotel on the south side of the street. That part of the street has been at least partially closed to cars for a while, even though most of the work is done. And I wouldn’t be shocked if those sidewalks are already heated.

As I said elsewhere, they’ve added a really nice seating area at the end of the street (you can’t really see it in this picture because it goes down toward the Grand River). This also better connects Monroe Avenue (where the picture is taken) to the walking bridge behind DeVos Hall that goes over the Grand River to the Gerald R Ford Presidential Library and Museum. Just across the street from that is the Grand Rapids Public Museum, with yet another pedestrian/cyclist only bridge back across the river.

Just behind the camera and about a block south is Rosa Parks Circle, another pedestrian focused area with safe access to several restaurants with outdoor seating and the Grand Rapids Art Museum.

In short, this is a very walkable part of town. It isn’t perfect, but it’s far from “pedestrians can get fucked.”

Also as I stated elsewhere, heating under the street like this can prevent the accumulation of snow which would be plowed onto sidewalks or bike lanes, and the accumulation of ice which would be treated with salt that would then run into the Grand River. It’s a very good solution for the specific problem faced by this city.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

Hey it might not be a total retrofit.. the sidewalks could already have it.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 points 1 day ago

In the winter people walk in the plowed roads in Michigan. But mostly people ride snowmobiles everywhere when there's a lot of snow on the ground. You don't want to be walking on a snowmobile track.

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