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Mostly elderly people coming from a good place, doing very little actual organizing outside of scarcely attended protests. Nice folks to bring into public events your org might be working on but I wouldn't join them
Interesting, do you want to speculate on why this is the case? And why the other response mentions them being bad at vetting and giving people responsibilities without warning?
I think your second question answers the first
Then you should think different.
Poor cadre development and a lack of strategic thinking (the second question) is why they are bad organizers (the first question).
And the party is old people coded because all the young people are joining the new party?
Local branch was about half old people, half younger than me. Every person I interacted with outside the local was old.
Basically, yeah. Nobody is really joining WWP anymore, so it's all people who've been in the party for decades.
To be honest, almost every volunteer labor run org I've been involved with is bad at vetting and so desperate for new labor that anyone relatively competent will be given responsibilities as quickly as they will take it.
Usually the leadership is on the edge of burn out. For a group like WWP, fading into relatively obscurity even within the left, I imagine they would be as susceptible to this trend as any.
Again, the folks I met were nice and all but, in my experience, US orgs run by old heads are not getting much young membership. At best it is a revolving door of baby leftists joining as a first openly leftist org and then leaving within a year or two once their level of political development exceeds that of the boomer leaders.