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[–] sgtlion@hexbear.net 63 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's amazing how a decades-long program of illegal deportations, camps for immigrants, and violent protest suppression is somehow being painted as solely Trump's fault, and not business as usual

It's the crisis that the Dems blame on Trump

But then with Biden, the Dems suddenly yet justifiably claim regardless of whether he deals with it or not, this deportation policy will continue, but unreasonably that he has little control over it.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep I remember feeling somewhat that way about GWB but that was also because the patriot act happened and it made more sense to be like woah woah woah this is an insane escalation even over the shitty Clinton years. I now know I was not entirely right in GWB being uniquely evil but like, now? After all that has happened under both parties for the last 25 years? Seriously?

Anyone that still ascribes to this great man theory bullshit is a lost cause as far as I am concerned. I still try with them sometimes but I don't have high hopes for them.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have no idea how anyone lived through Vietnam, Civil Rights, and the Reagan years yet remained a liberal. The only explanation is they choose to be ignorant or ideological.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah I wasn't alive for those

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Me neither which is why I find it all very silly. Like all it took for me to hate capitalism was Bush and Obama lmao

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

something something material conditions and ideology

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

I posted this just a few minutes ago - https://hexbear.net/post/5221435

[–] ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In their defence Trump is a catalyst. He has this habit of taking systems where guardrails were eroded over decades and exploiting them.

I.e. business as usual but worse

[–] sgtlion@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

I'll concede this to a minor degree, but basically every president is business as usual but worse