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[–] polle@feddit.org 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Its like choosing the president is a really important decision.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Sounds like more should have been done to prevent trump even getting on the ballot while his opposition was still in power. Oh wait, but then they couldn't run on "trump bad" and would actually have to champion something for the people to get their votes. Oh well!

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

But genocidal Kamala is just as bad! I was informed about it multiple times by accounts on .ml (and not all of them are operating exclusively during Moscow working hours)

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Biden/Harris would have done something similar to defend Israel from the consequences of its actions. Biden did bomb Yemen after all when it tried to stop the genocide. Biden is a self admitted Zionist and defended Israel’s invasion of Lebanon and supported the invasion of Iraq. Harris did nothing to distance herself from him.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump killed more civilians in Yemen this one excursion than the US did in the previous 23 years.
There is bad, and there is this bad. And not differentiating between the two is criminal.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

By the time Biden has left office he was already responsible for over 30,000 deaths in Palestine. They are all bad.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

By this point, there are only two ways to not understand what the degrees of bad are. Either you really, deeply, powerfully don't give a flying fuck about people's lives, and you see people as numbers you want to use to own the libs or whatever, or you are are so disconnected from reality, you really don't understand what differentiate more suffering from less suffering.
I really don't know what's worse, but both of those possibilities are deeply disturbing. You might feel like you're a good person, but you really aren't.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Do you deny that it was a genocide when Biden was president or do you deny his complicity? That's the only way your comment would make any sense.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah, in most regards kamala would've been better, but this is Israel. She may have been less gung ho, which would be better for a handful of Iranians benefitting from slightly fewer bombs, but not better enough

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'm sorry, do you have a magical alternate reality viewer that shows Kamala not doing the same exact thing except whinging along the way about "working tirelessly" to avoid the thing that is currently happening with zero repercussions for the aggressor state... ? Come on, don't forget the president that kept warning about non-existent red lines as Palestinians were being (and still are!) slaughtered by the thousands, and literally bypassed congress to send munitions to Israel despite this. Y'know, the thing that will now be super bad when Trump does it?

At least we & our government officials don't have to pretend this is fucking normal just because the president is super duper apologetic about it and pinky promises that they care about all the lives involved but conspicuously only mentioning the ones belonging to the aggressor nation!!!1!

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the first campaign promise by trump was to ban all muslims (even citizens) and build a wall around mexico because they are rapist.

they are not the same. people who think they are the same are arrogant morons who think they are smarter than everyone else.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Banning people is bad but a genocide is worse. Unless you deny the genocide or Biden’s complicity in it.

2024 Israeli air force official: Without U.S. aid, Israel couldn't fight Gaza beyond few months

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But you do realise that putting bad on top of worse doesn't make it better, right?
Being complicit with other country bombing another country, and actively doing it yourself is not the same thing, can you at least recognise it?

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Biden supported the invasion of Iraq. https://theintercept.com/2020/01/07/joe-biden-iraq-war-history/

He or Harris wouldn't have been any different. Proof: Biden bombed Yemen.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Trump’s Yemen bombings killed nearly as many civilians as 23 previous years of US attacks

Again, there is bad and there is worse. And your inability to differentiate between the two actively making things worse than worse.

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you a newborn?

every prezzo has been complicit with israel since forever. Tell me one prez that has been against it and defunded them. I'm willing to admit im wrong.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How does this excuse genocide?

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

is trump stopping the genocide, radio? No?

Then you fell for the dupe. you got conned. you fell for the bait. In your arrogance you are now rooting for a war with iran because you think you are smarter than everyone else.

Revel in it while you can, while the US races to bomb Iran. Again. Feel the peace flowing through your veins. And when it stagnates you can pretend you are a both sider like all the other arrogant voters who think they are somehow experts in middle eastern conflicts.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, I never wanted a war with Iran. I am sympathetic to Iran and I believe they have every right to defend themselves.

Things escalated this badly because Biden and the Democrats allowed it to. Had he stopped sending Israel the weapons the genocide would have ended within months and Netanyahu would have been in prison or at least ousted by now . Because he wouldn’t be able to use the war as an excuse to evade the corruption charges.

2024 Israeli air force official: Without U.S. aid, Israel couldn't fight Gaza beyond few months

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Benjamin_Netanyahu

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"because Biden and the Democrats allowed it"

Why hasnt trump stopped it then? Didn't he claim to be a prezzo of peace? Why did it only start when Trump became prezzo and not when biden was in? Could it be...Could it be you've been fooled? Wheres his plan to bring peace to the middle east did he lose it in his bathroom at mara-lago? He has all 3 power structures at his disposal but its still bidens fault?

give me a break. You remind me of those memes "Thanks obama!"

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Trump is a liar and a grifter. You can hate both parties, and I do. You don’t have to choose one genocider over the other, it is a false choice and I don’t engage in it.

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

so same as it ever was. You think this issue with Israel is new?

Its being used to fool arrogant people like you to not vote. You still havent provided me with a prezzo who has been against funding israel. decades this has been happening and aaaaalll of a sudden kamala runs and people care? You got conned, buddy boy.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I got conned when I voted for Biden in 2020 thinking he could be pushed on this, instead we got a genocide.

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

genocide was happening when you were 1 years old. You just only paid attention now because--and I gotta stress this--you were conned.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon under false pretenses committing massacres and bombing towns and cities in the process. Ronald Reagan called Menachim Begin and demanded that he stop the invasion calling it a holocaust, and he did. With one phone call Reagan was able to put an end to Israel's aggression. At the same time, Joe Biden went to Israel and not only was supportive but told Menachim Begin that he would go even further even it meant killing women and children.

Sources:

Reagan Demands End to Attacks in a Blunt Telephone Call to Begin

In Private, Biden Supported Israel’s 1982 Invasion of Lebanon

I was conned when I voted for Biden thinking that he has evolved and he can be persuaded to be better.

[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 1 points 1 day ago

Oh yes, lets talk about reagan, the iran-contra goon who you all swoon for.

Lets talk about that shall we? what a peace maker he was! gosh gee golly!

you are conned. and conned by a man with orange makeup and fake hair who you think is manly. oh yeah and his wife doesnt even sleep in the same bedroom as him.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

same exact thing

Yeah no.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 days ago