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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What a hot take, as if firearm owners are all the same, as if there are not left leaning gun owners.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The result of several decades from NRA successfully screaming Dems gonna get you guns!

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And dems demonizing gun ownership. Seems it worked out great for the right (er) wing.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it really didn't benefit them in any meaningful way.

Widespread gun ownership has gotten an enormous number of innocent people killed though.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Well in the states yes, since it is seen as some sort of right and not a privilege that requires basic safety training. The rest of the planet seems to be more sensible.

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There aren't enough leftist gun owners, sadly.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 2 days ago

As clearly can be seen by the distinct lack of ICE shootouts.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Personal firearms have basically never been used to resist government tyranny in the US or entire rest of the developed world in modern times.

What does consistently work is mass mobilization and turning out in numbers.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, did you read the examples you gave?

Your literal only modern example is a case in Fiji, an island with a population the size of Nashville, Tennessee, and army of 6,500 people.

And the coup was only successful because the special forces unit of the army that was run by a former SAS commander joined the coup and armed them.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IRA does not count? Really? The dropping of small arms for resistance fighters? Come on, you are getting as selective as you are wrong.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're referring to the Provisional IRA?

Tell us again how successful they were in their goals of ending British rule in Northern Ireland.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personal firearms have basically never been used to resist government tyranny in the US or entire rest of the developed world in modern times.

Please show us where success was required in the request?

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh so you're advocating for resisting in unproductive ways that don't accomplish your goals? Glad to get that out in the open.

Also, the Provisional IRA primarily used military weapons leftover from WW2, modern ones to the era smuggled in from Libya, and homemade IEDs, so not a particularly relevant example.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All those military rifles are legal to own in most nations with gun ownership. It is a very relevant example. Or are you advocating now that this only counts if the firearms are side by side shotguns and hunting rifles?

You are very much moving goalposts here and trying to put words and arguments I did not make in my mouth. Its not complicated, your point was no firearms where used to resist a tyrannical government in modern times, a point so completely incorrect as to be laughable.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, literally no goal posts have ever been moved.

The point was and always has been, that widespread availability of guns does not effectively resist tyranny in the modern era, but does kill numerous people needlessly.

All you have shown, is a couple random examples of guns being used to take ineffective pot shots at governments that ultimately crush them.

You have provided literally not a single example of people successfully using personal firearms to resist government oppression, let alone at a scale that would justify the thousands and thousands and thousands of needless deaths.

You're just a gun lover blindly trying to justify a reason for owning them when one doesn't exist.