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Okay can we not glorify America's 21st century batch of war criminals?
The list of “American Presidents that weren’t deeply problematic as individuals” is a very short one, and I think the only one I’ve heard a good argument for is ole Jimmy Carter.
But Trump is still magnitudes more problematic than any of the other individuals listed, and it’s whataboutism like yours that led us here.
Woo! Keep white-washing the Bush admin baby! After all, they only laid the foundational policy for every administration to follow.
I would say it was liberal willingness to normalize and even lionise bloodthirsty war criminals like Bush that led us here
Whataboutism? What the heck? I'm saying we shouldn't glorify war criminals in response to a comment glorifying war criminals. Glorifying the people who paved the way for fascism is a very bad way to fight fascism.
I fully agree with you on Bush.
I fully disagree on Obama.
I don't fully agree on Biden, but I can see where you have points to be made for your case.
All in all kind of a mixed bag really.
For Obama, setting aside the war on terror business and keeping Guantanamo open, enjoy. There's no definition of the word "war criminal" that doesn't include Obama.