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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Enforcement costs includes pay systems, enfircer paychecks, gear, blood, and lawsuits for the victims

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah that's already factored in as savings and thus deducted from the costs:

The cost of eliminating fares from all city buses would likely be north of $700 million – an MTA analysis from 2022 put the cost for fiscal year 2026 at $778 million, Mamdani’s campaign said. A separate analysis on free local bus service from the city Independent Budget Office incorporated savings that fare-free bus rides would produce, including on fare enforcement and collection costs, totaling $33 million per year. They found the total cost would be $652 million.

I already deducted an extra $52 million for a good-looking number. Whatever the independent analysis didn't think of is not likely to go beyond this $52 million.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I dont think its polite to include the settlements of cases of police abuse. Or monetizing the dead.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you don't include them then the cost is gonna be higher than $600 million. My point that it won't pay for itself and has to suck up funds that could've been used for infrastructure remains.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh. Yes. Means testing us not cost efficient.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 week ago

What is the point you’re trying to make here?

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, what does this have to do with means testing?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thats what charging money for tax funded tra!sit amounts to. It's usually an anti homeless measure.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago

Regressive taxes are far, far more cost efficient than means testing. And like I said, the costs saved by eliminating fare are already factored in. They're $33 million per year, and I added an extra $52 million on top of that for good measure.