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[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 42 points 2 days ago (15 children)

There was something about that movie (uma Thurman) that no Batman movie after was able to do (it was uma Thurman). I haven't seen the movie in years, but I remember empathizing with the villains in a way that modern movies just don't want you to (it may have just been uma Thurman but I remember feeling bad for mr freeze too). I might just be queerer than other people but the level of camp felt genuine. I don't dislike other Batman movies, but that one felt fun to watch the way old comics were fun to read.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Funnily enough, out of modern superhero movies, I think MCU got me to empathize with a villain the most. It was Thanos, who had a legitimate reason for reducing the population of the universe and didn't even want to discriminate.

I've grown bored with the MCU and haven't seen any of the newest films, but Infinity War was actually great.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The thing about Thanos though is that he is also a good example of what happens when a powerful figure is only surrounded by “yes” folks. Because his idea is, ultimately, stupid. Killing half of all life in the universe doesnʻt really change anything substantial because you wind up with the same problems: If you have 100 people and 50 cows or fruit trees or whatever, and you snap half of those, you still wind up with the same ratio. Now itʻs 50 people fighting for 25 cows or fruit trees or whatever.

The Infinity Stones basically make Thanos close to God. He could do anything. He could have doubled the resources of the universe, he could have created an entirely new form of resource.

In some ways this is in keeping with his characterization in the comics, where he has a habit of getting in his own way. But I kinda wish that Endgame, like in the Infinity Gauntlet series, would have revealed that he was actually trying to woo Death (which could have been represented by Hela) and so his supposed altruism is actually self-serving. Regardless, he does stand as a good representative of charismatic villains that garner sympathy while also being singularly focused on a really bad idea rooted in the villainʻs own self-assurance and ability to gather acolytes through a kind of “reality distortion field” effect.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They actually brought lady death into the canon with Agatha all along, played by April ludgate herself. I'd kill half the universe to impress April.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 3 points 21 hours ago

Thatʻs right! But at the time of Endgame, weʻd only seen Hela. I could definitely see someone snapping half the universe away for either of them lol.

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