Flippanarchy
Flippant Anarchism. A lighter take on social criticism with the aim of agitation.
Post humorous takes on capitalism and the states which prop it up. Memes, shitposting, screenshots of humorous good takes, discussions making fun of some reactionary online, it all works.
This community is anarchist-flavored. Reactionary takes won't be tolerated.
Don't take yourselves too seriously. Serious posts go to !anarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Rules
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If you post images with text, endeavour to provide the alt-text
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If the image is a crosspost from an OP, Provide the source.
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Absolutely no right-wing jokes. This includes "Anarcho"-Capitalist concepts.
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Absolutely no redfash jokes. This includes anything that props up the capitalist ruling classes pretending to be communists.
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No bigotry whatsoever. See instance rules.
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This is an anarchist comm. You don't have to be an anarchist to post, but you should at least understand what anarchism actually is. We're not here to educate you.
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No shaming people for being anti-electoralism. This should be obvious from the above point but apparently we need to make it obvious to the turbolibs who can't control themselves. You have the rest of lemmy to moralize.
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Just as "many" anarchists may hold your specific opinions, I know plenty from years or organizing who are not as dogmatic about being sectarian. As I said I prefer to work with people like that just as you seem to prefer spaces like the anticommunist snark comms
Well so long as you come out of this smug enough about your superiority as an anarchist, it's all good.
isn't that what you were just doing by claiming that I have "allegiances and actions" that leave much to be desired by "many other anarchists"
turnabout is fair play, and the extent of my 'actions' and 'allegiances' that you claim "anarchists" disapprove of is entirely limited to posts on the Internet and thoughts in my head.
Exactly, that's the only thing I have to go with, and fact of the matter is all I see you doing is allying in bullying other anarchists alongside with tankies. Likewise, all you have to go for is me making an anarchist meme, then defending myself against a bullying attempt and the usual ugliness this leads to. And note that my phrasing was very exact. "Much to be desired by other anarchists like me". I.e. I don't mean I'm better than you, or that you're not a good anarchist, I'm just disappointed and wary.
Other anarchists participating in anticommunist snark comms and towing the line on that front dissappoints and leaves me wary too, hence my mockery of this particular situation.
I pointed out that I'm actually active as an anarchist in the real world because people routinely claim that I am something else. If you read that as claiming superiority then I read your reading as projection.
Yes, It does come as smug superiority when you go all "I work in actual real life orgs, I don't just post anticommunist snark online like you." How do you not see that? Do you see me flexing up my anarchist creds in this discussion?
I am disappointed in you because you are directly allying with non-anarchists to bully anarchists for their anarchist views (and because you chose to shame the disengage rule in the process). You are disappointed in me because I make fun of non-anarchist movements. I am happy that your scene has MLs that are collaborative with anarchists, but why is it so hard to not accept that other anarchists have different experiences than you?
You need to learn when to disengage yourself. This is obviously an unhealthy situation for you, and any potentially productive discussions are dead in the water.
You are a mod. Lock the post and move on with your day.
I disengage, I get mocked for it. I don't disengage, I get unsolicited advice from hostile onlookers to disengage. FFS!
Dude, just lock the fucking post already. You should’ve locked it yesterday when you were telling every person and their mother to disengage.
I know you don’t like “tankies” and probably want to ignore my advice out of spite but you need to learn when to remove yourself from an unhealthy situation.
Amazing how no matter what, they hate us.
Use the community rules? Somehow were authoritarians who can't debate.
Continue with bad faith gotchas? Now we're being lolcows.
Maybe Hexbear is just inherently bad faith.
It's not, I'm used to it. I'm not a fan of getting told I'm something other than what I am simply because of people's perception of me.
You think I'm "allying with" people because I don't feel comfortable being around anticommunists and made fun of the situation here.
I'm fine with the disengage rule, Im glad you are less aggressive at censorship than the rest of them, but I still found the behavior of baiting then disenaging something to make light of. I'm not going to tell you how to run your space.
Again I take your reading of me listing my experience as superiority as too sensitive. I get exasperated when I express something unorthodox and I get called a red fascist. In response I state my personal experience in organizing as an anarchist, to point out that making declaration about who is and isn't anarchist based on internet comments is silly.
I don't think posting anticommunism in the middle of widespread actual fascism is a good use of time, but I'm not going to say the people doing it aren't anarchists or are secretly fascists. The worst I might say for that is terminally online and misguided.
In that case, all I will say is maybe read the room? You're not acting in isolation and whether you realize it or not, you became part of something greater than just your post. Like I said elsewhere in here, it's like the fan group or some influencer all going to the target du-jour and leaving that one "mocking" comment. In isolation it's easily ignored, but you're not working in isolation, and honestly, I think you knew it.
In any case, I don't think we're getting anywhere with this discussion. You can have the last word.