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Prompted by a post from @krishnanrohit: "I'm once again registering my annoyance at the fact that EVERY SINGLE NATURE DOCUMENTARY talks about how humans suck. Literally every single one. I am so tired of explaining to my 7yo son that no humans are not destroying everything. That he can be optimistic. It's obscene."

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[โ€“] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I also think our primate brains simply cannot handle being in a group larger than some small number; and most of us have lost the ability to shrink back down to that level of interactions for sustaining ourselves .

So we have exceeded our design parameters.

[โ€“] SlowBurn@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm with that the question of scale is very, very important. [edit: LOL, forgot I'd already mentioned it!] Graeber & Wengrow (Dawn of Everything) pulled together a bunch of research on there being plenty of past, larger societies which did not yield self-/other-destructive habits. But we certainly have a lot to learn about living together, especially in the large groups/networks/etc. we now have. Participedia is a good source for things in that direction. Mini-publics, citizen assemblies, sortition, a variety of good facilitation methods, online tools such as Pol.is, are all ideas/areas that explore how to do better at this. Healthy Democracy is one of the larger organizations working on related stuff in the USA, a smaller one I'm involved with is https://www.co-intelligence.institute/

Their Wise Democracy deck: https://www.wd-pl.com/

Deck about group patterns: https://groupworksdeck.org/