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There are many truths. All those pictures are true so are fighting Nazis, imperialism, and famine. See the whole picture not just the part that supports your bias and political position.
The US fights for Imperialism and famine, though. It doesn't engage in war for moral reasons, but for profit, and as the world Hegemon, that directly incentivizes US Imperialism.
The U.S doesnβt give a fuck about their people. Women are being charged when they have a miscarriage. Seriously. WTF is wrong with you people???
The US is founded on settler-colonialism and genocide, and is currently the world's largest Empire.
You dont know much about the military. Maybe look up some information on the topic first.
I have, actually. Want to elaboroate at all?
Do you have... any supporting evidence? Or is this just based off the warm fuzzy feeling you got from doing the pledge of allegiance in school?
My evidence is history. Read a book sometimes.
So, no then. Cool, thanks.
So is there any particular military history in the last 50 years you want to talk about? The invasion of Panama? Granada? Bombing Yugoslavia? Targeting Iraq's infrastructure during the gulf war, then imposing sanctions estimated to have caused a million excess deaths, mostly of children? Bombing a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan? Iraq II? Arming the groups that would become ISIS and Al Nusra?
Sure, how about Ukraine. If we didnt give them 200 billion in money, weapons, and training they would just be Russian territory by now.
Lets examine the evidence of history:
Do you think the people of Palestine are better off because of the US's actions? Do you think the people of Syria are better off because of the US's actions? Do you think the people of Libya are better off because of the US's actions? Do you think the people of Yemen are better off because of the US's actions? Do you think the people of Somalia are better off because of the US's actions? Do you think the people of Afghanistan are better off because of the US's actions? Do you think the people of Iraq are better off because of the US's actions?
And that's just in the last decade, and I know I missed a few. Do you really think Lucy is going to let Charlie Brown kick the football this time?
America is not acting to help the people of Ukraine, we supported the right-wing throughout the coup so we could have a hostile state on Russia's border so the vultures can eat their fill as both countries are bled dry. Hence why Ukraine was required to sell off state assets to foreigners for pennies on the dollar, accept massive loans, give up mineral rights, lower the draft age, etc. Russia aren't the good guys, but the US's actions have resulted in a scenario infinitely worse for the Ukrainian people.
Things dont have immediate results. Do I think it is better for a nation or a people to be freed from being ruled by a dictator? Yes. Can it take generations before another stable government, more suitable to serve the needs of the people, can be constructed and ascend to power? Yes. It varies from place to place, culture to culture, and people to people. Yes I think their future peoples will be better off.
Except the US has no interest in freeing the people, hence why we give most dictators the weapons they use to keep their people down. We have interest in their resources and labor being cheap, which dictates our foreign policy.
The US doesn't want a Ukraine that serves the needs of the people, we want a Ukraine with low wages, no social programs, whose assets and resources are owned by western billionaires, and whose people can be sacrificed to further imperialist goals.
You can look at any other country we've "freed" in the last 50 years for comparison.
We gave Ukraine 200 billion dollars in weapons, money, and military training. That isnt a gift. That is how that works and always has throughout history. Now I'm not saying they owe us everything but there is a debt there that should be repaid.
Do you think average Ukrainians wanted to be drafted to fight America's war?
Do you think the average citizen of any country wants to fight any war?
Yes, when they're actually fighting for their own future instead of which bourgeoisie faction will exploit them. Revolutionary and anti-colonial wars tend to be extremely popular with the populace.
The war is popular and well supported by the Ukrainians, as far as I am aware.
The reason you aren't aware of dissent is that Zelenskyy banned rival parties, took control of media outlets, and passed a law that makes opposing the war or supporting any territorial concessions imprisonable offense, which has been used against political activists.
To be clear, Russia does the same things. The point isn't to support the Russian or Ukrainian government, only that the US's actions are opposed to the interests of the Ukrainian people.
Maybe understand that when an asshole is trying to turn your country into a dictatorship, thereβs a time when the military stands for their country. NOT for dictatorship!
they were always a dictatorship for the rest of the world.
They can all go to hell
Maybe the military should think about what the fuck theyβre doing??? Are they going to follow fascists?
No u lib
Remember that good thing we did once? That means we can now ransack other 3rd world countries for profit, and fight in every country we can make a profit.
When have U.S. troops fought against imperialism?
And if you're hanging your hat on (reluctantly) being on the right side of one war 80 years ago, it's time for a hard look in the mirror.
But, Elon is throwing the Nazi salute. Your government is stripping away peoples rights. The whole picture is, the U.S. is stripping people of their constitutional rights.
Not really.
They are just getting rid of any and every liberty that any reasonable society would provide.
Not the rights though. We never had such rights. We just didn't realise those were needed to be written down because others didn't violate those expectations.
Even in an anarchy, without any written rights, we would have those liberties, given a reasonable society. Just not here.
Ok what rights have they stripped away?
The right for abortion, healthcare (by the DOGE bullshit), among other rights.
free speech for green card holders
This, too.
There is no such thing as a right to an abortion and that has nothing to do with doge. That was decided by the supreme court years ago. Elon Musk has already said he will step down at the end of May. You say he is taking peoples rights away. What rights is he taking away?
Keep in mind my response may have things added, as I verify and look into what you said, but here it is:
1: The Supreme Court is dominated by Republican Justices, which, if you take Trump's stance about judges being corrupt and bla bla bla, that also applies for his judges - and Trump never accepted the election loss, so the abortion right removal technically happened in his presidency.
2: I never did imply that abortion has anything to do with DOGE, I separated those two things with something called a comma (which you haven't used at all - oh, that explains it!). Medicare and Medicaid are, however, likely going to be cut off to save those juicy $1T to then give more money to the wealthy.
3: The rights being removed are not all by DOGE, but all are tied to the Trump administration, which does include DOGE.
This is officially rambling territory, but did you that if 99.99% of Elon Musk's money (assuming he has between 300 and 400 billion dollars) was evenly split between every US citizen, everyone in the US would get 1000+ dollars, and Elon Musk would still have 30-40 million?
Even if he just lost 99.8% of his money, he'd have an enormous amount of wealth ($800M), and the US citizens would still get a lot of money? Do that but 6 times (to count for every billionaire, making each keep $800M), and uni-statians would get $5K each!
P.S. Poverty only happens because the wealthy want to subjugate the working class, and make rebels not make it through.
The ONLY reason they temporarily (and royally late) fought nazis was to stop the Soviets from liberating the whole of western Europe.
European competition nicely destroyed after which these vultures made us their vasals.
If anything they helped plenty nazis escape or rehabilitated them.
And I'm sure they caused more famines than solved them.
Exactly. It's not a clear black and white issue and there are no easy solutions
It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt. -- John Philpot Curran
Yes absolutely. And many soldiers have paid the ultimate sacrifice for those things. Plus decisions regarding war are often made by politicians not soldiers.
They didnβt pay enough sacrifice. They are evil and any moment not suffering is a reward they donβt deserve