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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 80 points 2 months ago (74 children)

Originally, it meant people who supported the soviet union's use of tanks to crush uprisings.
Now its used to describe people who support Authoritatian Communist regimes, like the ussr, north korea or china.
On lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml there is a high amount of them.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 49 points 2 months ago (64 children)

Somehow they even support modern russia which is as far from communism as it's possible to be without being US

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)

What people tend not to realize is they don't support Russia because they think it's still communist, but because of a combination of campism, accelerationism, and revolutionary defeatism. If you want to argue with someone in good faith you should try to understand their position first, otherwise they will just see you as a reactionary and dismiss what you say. I still occasionally get my comments removed from .ml but I've been able to get through to people somewhat by leading with an actual understanding of where they're coming from.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago

I don't think it's fair to categorize it as accelerationist, although definitely campism and critical support (that is, taking a side while remaining critical of it) - like you said, they know and despair that Russia is no longer socialist, they only side with the RF in this conflict as a 'lesser evil' than the dominant NATO camp. We saw the US prolong the proxy war (it's not their soldiers dying) until the they openly threw Ukraine away and negotiated terms with the RF when the war seemed no longer useful (this part usually happens more diplomatically and privately in a proxy war, but it usually happens).

If you want to argue with someone in good faith you should try to understand their position first, otherwise they will just see you as a reactionary and dismiss what you say.

Absolutely. The .ml instances are stricter than most and don't cater to anyone they perceive as ignorant and parroting propaganda in bad faith. From their point of view, it's just as simple as how most instances would ban conservatives coming in and starting bigoted, ignorant oft-debunked Fox News arguments about racism and transphobia. Why bother platforming it?

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