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Don't do it OP, traveling and broadening your mind might make you enjoy life and then you'd not be so nonchalant about deleting yourself. You might end up on prison, where you'll suffer doubly due to your newfound love of life and freedom! Better semi-suffer in an empty existence for the rest of your life like most others.
Or like, just stay on a foreign beach with your embezzled money and a drink in your hand and never come back. Actually seems like the best option overall...
Happened to a buddy of mine, took out a bunch of loans during covid, and stopped paying rent. he didn’t travel but he lived large, pretty much spent it all on prostitutes and what not, then when the money ran out he couldn’t pull the trigger.
With a little help he got instituted for a few days and then got some government funded counselling (not in the states obviously)
He couch surfed for a bit, luckily we have a tight friend group
He landed back on his feet, still on the hook for all of it and the government started garnishing his wages, But he found a good stable girl who takes care of him and he’s happier than I’ve ever seen him, he works, he takes care of himself. I’m proud of him. He’s come a long way.
Dang, why not.
Sometimes thats the attitude it takes
If we all did this capitalism would collapse.
"if we all stopped working and just did drugs and hookers the economy would collapse" is not that deep of a thought.
Yeah, but it being a desirable outcome is a bit novel.
Sounds like we should all do this.
Its all part of the risk calculation that's made by the loan companies that make these credit offers to those deemed to be high credit risk.
Who they really are trying to hook are people who live paycheck to paycheck and keep rotating a balance of old loan balances and newer loan balances because between origination fees, interest, late fees and any other BS fees they decide to tack on they can make absolute bank indefinitely off of folks who struggle with budgeting and are constantly one surprise away from taking on more debt. Alternatively its folks who think in terms of monthly payments and nothing else
Clearly not, because $country did all this shit, and capitalism did not collapse, somehow...this time.
At that point why not just declare bankruptcy? If he was couch surfing then he had no assets to lose. Sure bankruptcy fucks your credit for a while but it's better than having nothing and still having your wage garnished. That's literally the situation that bankruptcy exists for. If you somehow get yourself in a truely irrecoverable amount of debt then it's your get out of jail relatively free card.
He did go down that path but he wasn’t fully out of depression by then, as part of it he needed to make some monthly payments to the lawyer as I recall, and because he was still on the fence of offing himself he didn’t keep up with it, and once it’s filed and not followed up with, it’s harder for it to get approved in the future, so he kind of fucked himself.
Also half of the loans were government Covid aid that he applied for even though he wasn’t eligible, he applied to everything and they sent him a lot of money because at that point in the pandemic the government was writing blank cheques that they would just follow up with and scrutinize later.
All of that government money is not eligible to be taken care of through bankruptcy, so he would still owe half of the debt regardless.
Ahh, so he did a bunch of fraud. The reason the government was writing blank cheques was because people were dying in the millions and businesses were failing left and right. He's lucky he's not in prison.
I'm glad he's doing better now, but I can't help but think of the people who needed that money and might not have gotten it in time (or maybe at all) because of what he did. Does he ever think about that, do you know?
Yes he is aware of the moral implications, clearly the government wasn’t holding back assistance to anyone at the time. Let me just show him your unconstructive comment real quick so he can get down on himself.
I'm really glad that he's aware of the moral implications of what he did.
Doesn't sound like you are though. I mean, you just admitted he committed fraud in order to appropriate money meant for people who actually needed it, and now:
You serious, dude? You're aware that I didn't commit fraud during the pandemic, right? And it wasn't hard either, I just didn't apply for relief I wasn't eligible for. You're aware he wasn't scamming a bank, he was scamming people in need?
It's okay to make mistakes, but he is lucky he's not in prison, and if he can own what he did like an adult then so can you.
Shut up with your holier then thou attitude, he made mistakes and he is paying the money back. You can fuck right off.
Not problems ending up ON prison, you just jump down the side.
Hope you've got some of that broken leg serum