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"Superior" level (europe.pub)

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[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My read on this is that the genetic component is much more significant in the US than in other places... because the US is significantly more economically stratified, nepotistic, and has a broken education system where rich idiots can get all the education they want, and skate by, but you basically have to be a diligent and lucky genius to escape poverty and the shit-tier education it has bestowed you with.

Thanks for the study. I will review in more detail. I don't agree with your conclusion here. Greater association between success and IQ, as we see in the U.S., would imply a higher degree of meritocracy. That is, more intelligent people are better able to break through class barriers due to their performance. This study implies that Europe is more hierarchically stratified, and that one's abilities are not enough to make any difference in success. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

The US is unarguably less meritocratic than the amalgamated EU by every possible metric.... unless your conception of a 'meritocracy' is 'you have to be a genius to even stand a chance at doing better than your parents, otherwise, all that matters is how much wealth you were born into.'

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Class mobility is worse in the US.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/social-mobility-by-country

Less people can actually manage to do better than their parents in the US than the EU (broadly, or aggregated and then adjusted per capita).

Income inequality is worse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient

The EU is thus less hierarchichal, stratified.

You are also not considering that the aggregated EU has better life expectancy, better levels of functional literacy and lower infant mortality than the US, ie, the 'shared environment' is at a higher baseline.

Not to mention the US's political systems have far, far more corruption by way of corporations and the wealthy being allowed to spend infinite money to lobby and advertise and propogandize for their preferred laws and policies.

Look up the Citizens United cass if you've never heard of if, or maybe observe the now regular, astounding and blatantly corrupt deals and grifts the current fascist regime does on a regular basis.

Or, if you prefer an academic source:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

Thats over a decade old now, its only gotten worse.

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The conclusions you are reaching fly in the face of obvious, exceptionally well documented facts.

You are wrong.