I've seen many threads suggesting products but they often don't mention FOSS projects, which should always be preferred to corporate software. With FOSS you are already boycotting capitalism, on either side. Free and Open Source ignores borders and shouldn't be categorized in nationalist terms, no matter where some of the maintainers happen to live.

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[–] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Or the classic "guys I am leaving WhatsApp, moved my whole family to Signal, another centralized US-based silo that requires phone numbers and runs on AWS, CloudFlare, etc."

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Signal: over a decade of leaking nothing and providing a great service for free, with some weird hiccups along the way like cryptocurrency.

Privacy "advocates": fuck signal

[–] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

if they leaked something you wouldn't know because US government law doesn't allow them to disclose if they requested data.
uses AWS servers that also the gov could ask for access to Amazon directly without even talking to Signal, being centralized and depending on AWS infra is also a weakness.
needing phone numbers to register, often tied to passport and it is super easy to get your whole network when compromising 1 device
all centralized services start nice, attracting users, once they have you, and money starts being a problem.... meet: enshitification

[–] qpsLCV5@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i mean.. it is massively better, but yes it still sucks. but what do you move friends and family to? last i looked into element it was not an option for several reasons, and i don't think anyone would switch to basically noname apps like simplex or similar, even if they might be decent solutions. i really want the last few contacts i have on whatsapp to move, but i'm not gonna push hard to get them to use signal just to get it enshittified in the near future. also a few switched to telegram, which while not facebook, is not really better mainly because it doesn't even e2ee by default.

[–] EySkibidiBabBab@feddit.dk 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's the reasons against Element :)? Currently testing it with some friends of mine, before trying to lure my family on it instead of iMessage. So would be interested in why you don't think it's feasible.

[–] tkr@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago

tons of reasons against element :

-huge/heavy interface on both web/software client

-2 passwords, 1 for session, 1 for encryption keys

-takes huge storage on server

-it's the whatsapp of OSS

here it is :

https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/matrix-vs-xmpp/

https://www.freie-messenger.de/en/matrix/gedanken/

https://gultsch.social/@daniel/113849961515845876