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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Oh no, cratering international shipping and hurting free trade opposing a genocidal settler state 🎻

I'm an anarchist lol why do you think I would care about free trade

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh no, cratering international shipping and hurting free trade opposing a genocidal settler state 🎻

Nothing like increasing the price of goods and starving some folk in third world countries to show the Israelis who's boss (by giving them a rounding error in their budget) 😊

I’m an anarchist lol why do you think I would care about free trade

Apparently you don't give a shit about genocide or executing LGBT folk either.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

(by giving them a rounding error in their budget) 😊

It took several months of several carrier groups as well, don't forget. They're just doing what they're capable of, which is clearly not enough to warrant that level of response.

Apparently you don’t give a shit about genocide or executing LGBT folk either.

That's literally what Israel is doing with multiple US aircraft carriers and endless ammunition supporting it. I oppose Israel because I'm directly implicated in that one. Just because I want to see Israel and the US lose doesn't mean I approve of everything their enemies do, per the original quote from you about 'popular front'

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It took several months of several carrier groups as well, don’t forget. They’re just doing what they’re capable of, which is clearly not enough to warrant that level of response.

Except the carrier groups haven't managed to suppress the Houthis or restore trade. There isn't an 'intensification' of the Houthi campaign possible; they've already squeezed the Red Sea trade route to the point where most shipping just avoids it. They've maxed out - this is the limit of their contribution. But hey, anything to keep simping for fascists who murder LGBT folks, right? As your friendly neighborhood Houthis say on their fucking flag, "A Curse Upon The Jews"!

That’s literally what Israel is doing with multiple US aircraft carriers and endless ammunition supporting it. I oppose Israel because I’m directly implicated in that one. Just because I want to see Israel and the US lose doesn’t mean I approve of everything their enemies do, per the original quote from you about ‘popular front’

So you're willing to forgive genocide and murdering LGBT folk in one case, but not the other. Wow, it's good that you're so principled, it would be really awful if you were some kind of hypocrite who, furthermore, managed to support things getting worse for everyone while claiming it was some kind of principled stand!

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wasn't being asked to vote for the Houthi though was I? They aren't being directly funded by my taxes like the US government and by association Israel.

They're just acting in opposition to our terrorist settlers, my support of their opposition doesn't extend to every action they take, quoting you:

Yes, under the same principles as WW2. I would probably be telling people that supporting the British Empire or the USA or the Soviet Union was non-negotiable despite all being imperialist genocidal states.

Supporting enemies of the US and Israel is following the same principles as supporting the enemies of Nazi Germany without necessarily approving of everything they do.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I wasn’t being asked to vote for the Houthi though was I?

"It's okay to lick boots as long as I don't vote for them!"

Me, personally, I might find expressing moral support for genocide and the murder of LGBT folk more repulsive than casting a vote for the lesser of two evils, but I guess I'm not 'pure' enough to understand that voting is a love letter, while love letters are... just good praxis...?

Supporting enemies of the US and Israel is following the same principles as supporting the enemies of Nazi Germany without necessarily approving of everything they do.

The whole problem with this though is, as I pointed out, you're claiming a principled stand against lesser evilism and common foes in one case, while supporting it in another case - a case which you have much less reason to support, and much less influence. One might be tempted to think you actually have no principles, and are operating purely on some weird internet circlejerk tribalism like most campists.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago

One might be tempted to think you actually have no principles, and are operating purely on some weird internet circlejerk tribalism like most campists.

You are a campist who has chosen camp 1.