Thank you. I really don't get those people.

And I mean, the Democratic party doesn't exist in a vacuum. If you don't try to change anything, of course the awful "moderates" stay in charge. But it is possible to overtake them, just look at Mamdani. But some people won't even try that because "it's a lost case"…

You know how before the elections we say that it's not the time to nitpick the Democratic Party because it's more important to have it win so that the fascist won't win?

Well, now we are not before elections, which means that now it is the time to nitpick the Democratic Party.

This is such a tired narrative. You guys really want to focus on the leftists when half the country voted for an authoritarian?

Every movement has its radical fringe. Virtue signaling either your ideological purity or your solidarity with the only viable opposition are equally feeble attempts at clinging to a notion of victory in the face of total defeat.

EDIT: I wasn't expecting this comment to generate discussion but since it did, let me elaborate on what I meant by "total defeat." The defeat is not an electoral loss, it's the fact that we have relinquished so much political power that all we have left is voting for one of a set of compromised politicians every few years. It's a tired argument because it assumes that it's possible to vote our way out of the mess we're in, and it simply isn't. We need to attack the point of production because it's where the ruling class derives its power. And arguing about our sham elections is getting us nowhere.

Wonder where all those people are? Immediately after the election for several months lemmy was full of people blaming how shitty things turned out on anyone but themselves. “It’s the Democrats fault I didn’t vote even though I know trump is a fascist POS!”

NOBODY thinks the dems are great. They’re fucked up.

But they’re not Alligator Auschwitz fucked up. They’re not screw the country with tariffs fucked up. They’re not ICE Gestapo fucked up.

But that’s not the non-voters fault because this is better than some neo-lib winning.

I voted for Harris, am I allowed to be mad that the Democrats are still gung ho about Israeli genocide yet? Or do I need to shout blue no matter who for another few decades?

Not voting and voting for trump were both stupid choices. But attacking people who didn't vote for trump instead of those who did is fucking bananas and I don't get the point of this. Are we expecting a resounding vote in 2028 for Harris again is going to fix everything? Come the fuck on.

True but it's a minor point. Even if every single lefty held the line it wouldn't have made a difference. The people who didn't vote were mostly disengaged normal people and the blame for that is squarely on the Democrats for sucking absolute shit on purpose because of big money in politics.

Have some perspective, pick better fights with worse people. I personally find it extremely unmoving when the left chastises people over politics so good job emulating one of their worst and least politically effective qualities.

Instead, I humbly suggest you try to inspire a shred of hope among the cynical and apathetic - but deep down actually very cool people of the Earth🌠

As a trans person, you can suck my girl dick. I am not a cudgel to be used by shitty libs to sheepdog votes for their nonexistent policy.

Trans rights keep being eroded, regardless of who is in power, because the Democratic Party isn't doing anything to preserve them.

Holy blame shifting, Batman!

The dems are literally rolling over for fascism. They are complicit.

I feel like takes like this come from people with no long term memory. Do you remember the pro-palestinian crowd begging Kamala Harris to even pretend like she'd do something to help? And she basically told them to vote for Trump? Blame the Democratic party for choosing to be fascism-light instead of actual resistance.

Fascism is not a break from the previous administration, but a continuation.

Libs are still crying about their loss of power, still doing nothing to resist.

If the "online lefties" were so powerful a block perhaps Dem's leadership should have courted their vote. If they were so minor a block that "online lefties" should be ignored then you're targeting the wrong people.

But you know this already, I told you before the election that way to win the "no genocide" vote isn't to try convince them to vote "yes genocide". It's to try convince the leaders to stop supporting genocide.

This post is the same punching down shit you were doing before the election.

Man you keep just making a variation on the same "fuck the leftists" line over and over again.

CIA ass post

When asked what Kamala's opinion was about Trans people and protections, all she said is "they should follow the law".

The fuck is that non answer

Are we talking about the same Democratic Party who put forward Kamala "I believe we should follow the law" Harris as their only candidate for president?

How you people manage to convince yourselves that a Democratic Party win would achieve anything at all for trans rights, is beyond belief!

Honestly i get both sides of this, like im in the UK and probably not going to vote Labour next election because theyve gone really out of their way to show the left how much they hate us, despite the fact its probably going to come down to Labour or reform, but the difference is here smaller parties are actually somewhat viable. So i think in the US it does make sense to vote Dem no matter what in the actual election, but put your effort into getting actual leftits on the ballot in the first place like Mamdani.

Blaming people for not voting for shit candidates isn’t going to accomplish what you’re hoping for, just saying.

I would have voted left if I was physically allowed to.

But also you did have a candidate that came in last minute and was a republican-sympathizer.

Do you actually blame them?

Fucking hate this narrative. Go after republicans at least half as much as you go after leftists and we wouldn't be here.

I'm getting pretty tired of people victimizing themselves to such an absurd level while people are actually dying because they've been kicked off medicaid.

That feeling when Democrats are turning on trans people. Pretending the Democrats will save us as a Fool's errand. Pretending that trans people wouldn't be on the chopping block if the Democrats had federal office is naive.

Some Democrats, reeling from Republican attacks tying their party to transgender rights issues, are privately furious at their leaders and explicitly warning they need a better strategy going into 2026.

Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/13/democrats-moderates-transgender-issues-strategy-00189123

Ah, this Pug Jesus. Always angry at leftists showing they're just Republican lite. Got it.

You choose violence today I see. Wew lad this comment section.

Complaining about lefties not supporting a party that hates lefties is not going to fix the problems at hand