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You have context to define normalcy. I'm the speaker and I'm from a place where it's not normal, so it's not normal.
But of course that's not the point and has never been, because the line isn't about whether the practice is standard in some regions, which it obviously is, it's about whether it makes sense to the general principles of general mores on gender for modern society, which it doesn't.
Which you understand fully and always have. Because this is one of these dumb ones, so we're now on loop two.
Man, social media sucks and is so not normal.
If you were talking about the other people the context would be their surroundings.
Oh, we're back to copy pasting and out of the "calling out the real conversation that's happening" tangent? Cool.
No the person speaking doesn't determine it when speaking about other people. You can't decide normalcy for someone else.
That is literally what you do every time you use the word, unless you add "for them" afterwards or you're talking about yourself.
I was going to bring in another copypasta here, but this one is so obviously wrong I kinda need to call it fresh.
When you're talking about other people you sorta don't need to keep repeating the fact. And you were talking about some third party ("they").
And no, you can't just decide what's normal to someone else. I can't decide it's not normal to go to sauna in Finland, even if I so furiously disagreed with that.
You absolutely can decide whether something someone else does is "normal" and do all the time. "I can't believe how often people in Finland go to the sauna, man, it's just not normal" is a perfectly acceptable statement nobody would have an issue with unless they were deliberately pretending to misunderstand it to be obnoxious and trolly on the Internet.
You can find it abnormal but it still is normal to Finns. It doesn't change the actual reality. That's just what it means.
You can caveat it with their perspective all you want, that's an aditional statement that has nothing to do with the original perfectly valid, perfectly understandable statement that you understood.
You said "they" though.
Finns and Americans are both "they". Everybody who isn't you or me is they.
Keep it up, we'll descend all the way down to pure formal logic this way. Breaking new frontiers of semiotics, I tell you.
It's normal for both Americans and Finns. But that's kinda duh, you spoke about they who find it normal so of course they would be people who find it normal.
That is not a sentence.
I mean, I know what you're saying because... you know, but if we're going to do this dick measuring thing you're going to at least have to approximate language.
I'm sorry but what do you mean?
That's my exact question, actually.
You don't know what you meant?
See, that's not how pronouns work. You keep getting the concept of language wrong. It impacts suspension of disbelief, man, it's just sloppy.