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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some people need a gentle hand, others need a slap on the wrist. For those who have already licensed themselves away from changing their minds through logic, refutation, or general dialogue, an open mind comes from personal, deteriorating conditions and the desire to learn how to escape them. All the patience in the world isn't enough for some people until the right conditions are met.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

... All the patience in the world isn’t enough for some people until the right conditions are met.

getting smacked around the system is an EXCELLENT accelerator; ask me how i know. lol

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What helped me most, from floating around various liberal viewpoints to coming to Marxism-Leninism, was actually working in an industrial environment.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

my first job was working under the table at my father's plastics factory and the intense level of anti-mexican racism from the workers made my sisters and i quit less than a week later; it makes me marvel at how anyone can organize anything from factory workers as well as how anyone can endure it for decades like my father did.

i also tried the same thing at my mom's dinner in food service and i quit the same day and for the same reason, but my sister made fantastic tips. lol

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's awful, I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, a lot of trade union history is marred by racism and exclusionary rhetoric, even if the more unified and anti-bigotry organizations have had far more success historically.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks but don't apologize for those asshats; they got what they deserved when their "True American" owners laid them all off but kept most of the Mexican workers (probably because they were cheaper labor).

Plus, the experience also convinced me to go to college and get my degree. Maintaining employment isn't easy these days but atleast the work is A LOT easier and the working conditions are A LOT better.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago

Glad to hear things are looking up for you!

[–] jorge@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was a far-right theocratic (Catholic) lunatic until about 2009. Many factors converged to slowly convert me to communism, but a big factor was indignation against the grave damage (from hateful obscurantism) to my personal life, including mental health and academic performance.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, we all have different journeys. Different needs and different means of communication.