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Every time I go to the piefed frontpage I'm blown away by how much more polished it is. It has all the bells and whistles that lemmy is sometimes missing.

Whats the catch? Why aren't we recommending everyone goes to piefed instead of lemmy?

App support is one thing I can think of.

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[–] rglullis@communick.news 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

Generally, because I think all server-centric AP software is broken and I want to see a client-first application to browse the social web.

Particularly in relation to piefed: it seems to be focused on the exact opposite (giving more power to the server admins) and it takes a good page of social engineering / "nudge theory" principles to guide its design. Much like Mastodon, it seems to be strongly opinionated about how people should behave and it kinda gives me an icky feeling about its culture.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago (12 children)

It may be a bit opiniated, but it's nice to see a different approach from Lemmy devs who don't see the need for any additional moderation tool.

I brought up mod mail during the AMA, it has been considered too complex to implement. A moderation panel with an overview of the mod queue would be nice too, but not a priority.

I'm not saying Piefed is perfect, but at least they prioritize that aspect.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

"moderation duties" and "regular participants" in a forum system have such different use cases, it makes no sense to try to make it work with the software itself.

It would be better/faster/easier to simply build a separate tool that can be useful for moderators, instead of trying to shoehorn it in the existing API. But I don't really think that this is something that really bothers people enough, given that last time I asked if I could get 20 people interested to sponsor the development of the moderation tool, and to this day only one person showed up.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

It would be better/faster/easier to simply build a separate tool that can be useful for moderators,

Piefed built it in their software without a separate tool

[–] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

And by doing so, it makes it available only for moderators with accounts on piefed. What is the current TAM? 20 people?

A separate tool could connect to any server federating "Report" activities. What is the current TAM? Any moderator of a group, no matter if their account is on Lemmy/PieFed/PixelFed/Misskey/Mastodon...

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

20 people?

https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=7

360 currently, so around 18 times that.

A separate tool could connect to any server federating “Report” activities.

The appetite seems limited as you pointed out yourself in the comment above.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

360 currently

Please, read things in context. I'm talking about moderators.

Are all the 360 PieFed users also community moderators?

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I can add a piefed account as a mod to a community I mod right now.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 21 hours ago

How many people like you are using PieFed right now?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 22 hours ago

Those features also impact all Piefed users.

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