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Servers, fantastic.
Desktop, it doesn't. Fantastic sloppy mess of drivers, plugins, and pain in the ass work.
An opinion from 10 years ago
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Running multiple bazzite systems. Multiple issues with documentation being flat out wrong and so much pain in the ass dealing with Gnome, display issues, and lacking ecosystem. You're delusional.
As compared with the excellent Windows documentation, UI and faultless drivers.
Absolute mess. But not as bad a nix.
I promise you I've never had to run something like xdotool or xrander just to set up basic shit like mouse gestures or a default display like a tv.
Windows works a lot better out of the box with little to no input. It'll just nag you about one drive the entire fucking time lol.
you don't, why would you? use kde they have built in stuff for this... you said you use bazzite
https://docs.bazzite.gg/Handheld_and_HTPC_edition/quirks/#how-do-i-specify-the-correct-monitor-for-gaming-mode-to-use-htpc-only
Documentation is incorrect as well. Xrandr doesn't even return full device names. You need to know to append the Linux HDMI naming convention. You also need to fuck with pulse wire on DE and gaming mode. I've run into similar issues in Debian including have to fuck with pulse wire for HDMI audio.
But I'm sure it's just my distro. I bet mint will work flawlessly 🙄
the documentation doesn't say to use xrandr to do that, it gives clear instructions you didn't follow.
Sorry you've got me. I mixed up Gnome and the generic.
yes X11 is a mess, always has been.
I just don't understand why we can't be realistic about these real barriers to entry.
what are the real barriers to entry? I doubt its finagling with the more than outdated X11 session manager when we have Wayland, every Distributor ships Wayland (exclusively).
Dude I started using Linux at the time of CRTs and xorg.conf, I remember about xrandr, but it's far away in the past.
https://docs.bazzite.gg/Handheld_and_HTPC_edition/quirks/#how-do-i-specify-the-correct-monitor-for-gaming-mode-to-use-htpc-only
No, it's not. Similar issues a few years ago in Debian as well.
Not a single mention of xrandr on that page. Bazzite uses Wayland, not X11
Gnome-randr
You got me! Idiots 🤣
I know I'm so stupid for putting in the generic! Just Linux things. The fact that two of you did the same exact thing is mind boggling.
Such SIMP ing lololol
you're unlucky and such issues are rare, except nvidia problems I'd say issues are actually less frequent. i have helped countless people install linux.
do you honestly think your single experience is representative? do you not think i could find countless reports of windows doing the same?
I know, every time it's rare. It's not a real issue. I chose the wrong distro. I have the wrong graphics card. I should have known to use kde over gnome for this use case. I should have known that electron and Wayland were a mess at the time despite being the recommended desktop, I'm always holding my phone incorrectly.
I write terraform and go modules all day but I'm just somehow always unlucky in discovering these issues over 15 years of off and on trying different distros over the years.
To take a serious stab at this post
Do you know it isn't? sometimes rare things happen to you.
who has ever said that to you?
are you aware that if you ask questions nicely and with humbleness instead of like a jerk you'll get different styles of answers?
that's fixed and long passed us, they were new and experimental for a while but now they're mostly the default.
I feel like all of this is a red herring.
How do Windows users fix a problem? They Google the problem and get the solution.
The EXACT same thing works in Linux. Has for a long, long time.
The only time it DOESN'T is when you either don't know what you're trying to do, in which case no power on EARTH is going to be able to help you, or you're trying to do something so obscure and obtuse that a Windows user wouldn't be doing it either.
Do you have statistics to prove otherwise?
Nope. I'm just a dum dum who can't figure out a computer.
based on you not reading documentation and then getting mad at it in the other post i'm inclined to agree
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Linux... Plugins?
Yes. Gnome makes heavy use of extensions. As do other projects.
Well, you have the choice to usee a different DE... Unlike Windows.
Uuh, so being able to tweak gnome shell is bad now?
No, it's more difficult. You need to install extensions, have community awareness, and manually configure a bunch of shit, and hope that it works; which it commonly doesn't.
If the configuration was easy or consistent Linux DEs would be a clear choice for most.
yeah sure, but only if you want to customise the shell in the first place
regarding what?
Thats what one does when they want to customise their desktop anyway, right?
can't say that my extensions don't.
GNOME and KDE are pursuing two different kind of UI philosophies, so of course the configuration isn't consistent on a UI level. And for exactly THAT reason we have the terminal.
This is just complete and utter nonsense.
No, it's not.
Yea it is.
Disagree.
That's fine. You are allowed to be wrong.
No u.