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The new eMMCs are 400MB/s (so SATA-ish level) with random writes about there as well, it depends what specifically they'll be using. It's also more power efficient than SSDs, however it can't address more than 256GB (so consider SD speeds too).
There also isn't anything wrong with having a lot of RAM if it doesn't impact the battery considerably. Which it prob does.
Interesting, didnt know about the current state of eMMC. That would be certainly useable if its the new stuff.
Regarding the ram: Yeah, a lot of ram isnt bad. But it also costs money and i dont feel like that amount of ram in combination with the rest of the hardware is too beneficial. Maybe i lack the creativity but i dont see applications where you need that much of ram and wont be bottlenecked by that 5 year old mid tier mobile SOC. Like my desktop gaming rig has 32gb of ram and current flagship phones still use sometimes just 12gb and go up to 24gb in very rare cases. 32gb just feel imbalenced with the rest of the hardware.
Don't forget that Linux isn't isn't nearly as aggressive as Android in killing background processes, which means RAM is far more likely to stay hanging, and you probably don't want to be swapping on the eMMC.
fair, but we're still talking about 32 frigging GB of ram in a phone. not that it should count as a best practice baseline but apple sells 16gb laptops as the entry point and tbf at the moment its just enough and their performance is sitting in a completly different league
ram can be used to heavily compensate for slow read speeds and can make slow memory leaks less of an issue, also with that much you probably don't need a swap file/partition.
Apple selling 16GB laptops is something anyone in the know regards as essentially criminal.
it is. i firmly state: fuck apple. now give me a single reason why an underpowered linux device needs 32gb.
lmao. so you cant give me reason and just post some memes instead. fair enough. idgf. its a cool device. having 32gb of RAM is fucking rad on a phone. but its stupid. its an inbalenced configuration with that weak ass soc. that was my whole point. but you couldnt even prove your point on an academic level.
This isn't some meme, it's a screenshot from my computer.
so, running 50+ instances of different programs at the same time is your argument why a phone needs 32gigs of ram. thanks for the discussion dear internet person. especially after i stated several hours ago there might be edge cases.
I have 67 tabs open in Firefox at this moment and maybe I don't want them to reload when I come back to them from Lemmy
This is a single program.
Thanks for dismissing other people's experience that don't match yours, you're a real one.
i fucking mentioned edge cases in my first post
Why are you being so unpleasant? Just chill out mate.
It's not an edge case, it's my daily life.
i dont doubt that. atleast that its your daily life. but a lot of stuff in my daily life simply is an edge case. nothing wrong about it. beeing on lemmy is all in all an edge case. i wish it wouldnt be. but in fact i have met so far only a single guy who even knew what reddit is in rl. let alone lemmy. with that in mind i want to go back to the phone with 32gb of ram but with a midspec 5 year old soc. yes, i can imagine someone which can make use of that configuration. it still is a weird ass config. case in point; every other hardware config of a popular current phones. so i dont really know whats your point with your screenshot and i dont know how i dismiss your experience. like wtf
What are you even talking about? 16GB is plenty for most people's laptop use cases. What was criminal was when the default was 8GB, but they seem to have stopped that now. In saying that, the pre-built Framework 12 starts at 8GB, though that's a lot less criminal when it's not soldered on.