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Don't worry. Super fans will still defend it. They've been using the "but but but but" strategy lately
I’m not at all defending the price, but am secretly hoping this outcry will make it easier for me to be an early adopter. I still don’t have a PS5 due to how burned I got trying to preorder one.
I'm a big fan but I'm not stupid. This is some horseshit.
I have both DLCs and I didn't expect this garbage. Really bad stuff.
So then you still get to play them. The only people this affects are new buyers, which... scans internet will be approximately nobody, given the raging hate-boners on display. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But if I buy the upgrade pack, what will happen to the DLCs when I play on the Switch 2?
Then you'll play the DLC with the updated graphics etc. There's nothing mystical about the upgrade pack - it's just engine optimizations to let the game run natively on new hardware, probably some revamped textures, etc. The base game has been DLC-aware since the DLC was released. Having the DLC doesn't change the game code, it just makes the extra content accessible.
Okay, so then it's just like normal? This is no news at all? It's the same as buying the game on the original Switch? Because the DLCs weren't included with that version either. 🤷♂️ How uninteresting of a post.
I will get it and play MKW but...
Yeah no I can't justify getting too many games for it. Will probably just have World and MAYBE DK Bananza
You're going to buy an entire console for just one game?
When I hit 360 hours in BotW, I asked myself, was this worth a dollar an hour? Yes, yes it was. That was almost 8 years ago, and doesn't take into account time spent playing other games, or the 7+ years of playtime since.
$/h is a shitty metric. Some hours are more enjoyable than others, and also time is a resource we spend, just like money, not something we're gaining, so it taking time is a negative. Enjoyment/$ is the metric to use, or maybe (enjoyment/h)/$.
$/h is a marketing term. It isn't a term consumers should bother with. It's what has lead to boring over-inflated games that waste your time doing things that don't matter and aren't fun.
Or, as I stated, "worth the money." I'm not interested in turning it into a hard formula, universally transferable. As you noted, there's too many variables. I was stating that the money was well spent. That's it.
OK, but you didn't say that. You said worth the $/h, which is a common metric people use but is less than worthless.
$/h is useful because it isa universally transferable measure. Enjoyment is not, but is actually what we care about.
I'm just trying to work to remove $/h as something people discuss, because it's ruined so many games.
Fair enough.
Yeah... But that's Zelda and not Mario kart.
Different strokes for different folks. I've been playing MK8 for 9ish years on two systems. I don't expect World to be a step backwards, but it could happen.
I may have bought a Switch at launch solely for BotW (even though I had a Wii U), but that's not the only game I played, even if was the only game I owned for a bit. More games came later. Anyone saying "I'm only going to buy one game" is basing that off of what's available at launch. More games will come later, at which point people will make their value decisions.
People are losing their shit about Nintendo bumping prices for the first time in several gaming generations. Broad declarations of "never, not me, I won't!" There seems to be a large overlap between the most vocal and the following two groups:
Happy with your Steam Deck? Great! I'm glad another actual gaming company (Valve) has entered the hardware space. (For MS and Sony, gaming is just one part of their enormous portfolios.) Nintendo doesn't interest Deck folks. That's fine. I can't play first person or close third person games, and never liked RTS-style click as fast as you can games, so PC gaming has never been my thing. The impressive Steam library doesn't do much for me. That's fine. We all have options. Great!
People that just pirate their shit? Great! Piracy always has and always will exist. Companies have always fought back against it, and always will. Getting around those barriers is part of the scene. Remember when Sony lost in court against Connectix, then bought VGS just to kill it? I do. I was an adult at the time, and played a lot of THPS using a shitty USB gamepad on my computer. The world kept turning. Games are still free for those that want them enough.
The thing those groups have in common? Neither of them were all that likely to buy anything Nintendo. But any unfavorable news makes them come out of the woodwork to declare that they're not going to buy any of it even harder. Great! Just totally irrelevant. It's the latest chapter in the long running saga of the console wars. It's never been a good story, but does it ever have staying power. Yay tribalism.
Yesn't. Gift from the family since it comes out on my day. Just not looking the horse in the mouth
Why not ask them for something else, unless they really want you to have that device in particular for some reason.
My brother wants to play it too and he lives next door