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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They're too chicken shit to go after actual criminals, because they'll fight back...

Like, obviously not all immigrants are violent criminals, but it's also true that some immigrants are violent criminals. Just like literally every demographic.

If Trump's admin just cares about total numbers, they're going to keep going after the easiest targets, even if they're in the country legally.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It’s not about violent criminals. It’s about white supremacy. It’s about demographic change. This is ethnic cleansing.

[–] koetje78@feddit.nl 1 points 4 days ago

It's about making the US accustomed to state violence on the streets. Because that allows going further. They do not give a shit about crime or ethnics. Only power and expanding it through suppression. Doing this to "illegals" first is just a way to not make enough people resist.

Just like actual Chicago crime figures are entirely irrelevant. Facts are not driving this nor are relevant to a huge portion of the population. The question is about being able to deploy the army where Trump wants and who can resist that. To figure out how strong his regime is. So far, the limit is far from reached.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Obviously...

Every innocent brown person they deatin, increases the percentage that are violent criminals and out of the streets.

They don't want to solve crime, they want to convince people crime is bad so that they support the total removal of everyone brown.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If they were serious about crime, they'd have gone into Watts and Compton in Los Angeles, or Washington Park/any of the sketchy south side neighborhoods in Chicago.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was in Compton a couple years ago, and it was great. Didn't go into Watts or any of the PJs though.

I used to make it a point in my younger days to walk around "rough" areas, Compton felt like a suburb compared to something like Chicago or NYC.

Most of those "high crime areas" are because of drug dealing and gangs trying to control turf and the violence that comes with that When that stuff is going on, fucking with a random just isn't worth the police attention it might bring.

In my experience the most dangerous areas are almost always 10-15 minutes away from a "rough" area. It's far enough away from the action that random crime won't negatively effect the drug trade. But close enough drug users are looking for stuff to steal to feed their addiction.

When I was skateboarding in highschool, we used to go into the city and intentionally pick skate spots within eyeshot of a manned corner. It meant cops weren't likely to come thru the area, and no locals would start anything like a mugging/jacking because that might bring cops into the area and get the dealers pissed at them for interrupting business.

On the other hand, if we ever saw cops we were out of any area immediately. Even if we weren't doing anything wrong, there's just no telling when a cop would decide to fuck with someone, even planting drugs or making up random bullshit

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I definitely depends on where in Compton for sure. I worked in an industrial area off Del Amp years ago and it was fine, but I remember getting lost after partying at USC one night and it was pretty sketchy.

My point was that if ICE were serious, they'd be venturing into these high crime areas, not terrorizing families. But then they'd be met with armed resistance.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

If they were serious they'd be working to gain rhe trust of locals who would tell them where the trouble is if not who makes it

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

Yup. That's the reason they're targeting blue cities. If they tried raiding brown citizens in, say, Texas, they'd get shot.