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[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:30] Oh no, look… It's half to Hitler

[yellow, annoyed] Chill out buddy, don't be such an alarmist

[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:45] Oh no, look… It's quarter to Hitler

[yellow, rude] Yeah I get it, I tweeted about it, leave me be

[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:55] Oh no, look… It's five to Hitler

[yellow, scared] Oh shit oh fuck, we really need to do something NOW

[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:59] Oh shit, look… It's one to Hitler

[yellow, terrified] It's too late now, wish we could have seen it coming earlier

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can conceive of anything.

But what I conceive wouldn't be the reality of the last election.

Here are two examples of people doing politics. Take notes.

Frederick Douglas was an escaped slave. In 1860 he had a choice; speak out for the strongly pro-abolition candidate, or back Lincoln, who was not going to call for immediate abolition. Douglas figured that it was better to back Lincoln and have the President's ear, than to back a candidate who had no chance of winning.

Martin Luther King's top assistant was a gay Black man named Bayard Ruskin. Ruskin never put himself forward, even though he was a vital part of the Movement. He knew that America wasn't ready to accept LGBTQ issues at that time, so he stayed silent.

So, can you conceive of looking at things dispassionately and playing the long game?

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Playing "the long game" on genocide is effectively actively murdering people, especially when previous administrations have actually employed the "yank the chain" policy on israel. There is no long game here, there's genocide or no genocide.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As we speak, the genocide is ongoing. So nothing you advocate actually helped.

You can stamp your feet and scream all you want, but ignoring the facts does nothing.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But I won't support a genocide either, rhetorically or with a vote as you have. It's called having principles. Try it.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So we both agree that your high principles did nothing to actually stop the genocide.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am fine with having the same level of principles as Frederick Douglas, Bayard Ruskin, and the WW2 partisans who took aid from colonial England and racist America.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget being way into genocide

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If I enjoyed genocide I'd be like you. Sit on the sidelines and do nothing at all, then proclaim how morally superior I was.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social -1 points 3 days ago

Sadly, that's the most intelligent thing you've added to the conversation.