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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This image released in September 2013 by a minority PQ government shows a proposal for types of religious clothing allowed and not allowed for public workers under Quebec's proposed 'charter of values.' (The Associated Press/Quebec government)

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you have additional information that contradicts it, I'd happy to see it. I don't live in Quebec, and only know what I know.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't, and i don't live in canada, nor i care about the politics too much, that's why i'm here to see what's up, and i find taking an 2013 image from the government proposal at the time and without context is a bit disingenuous.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I took it from a news article from last week, which suggests pretty strongly that that proposal is exactly what was implemented, and they never produced an updated graphic.

But again, I'd welcome a genuine correction.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Just underneath that picture it says it was not implemented.

In 2013, a minority PQ government proposed the notorious "charter of Quebec values," aiming to ban religious symbols for public servants, but it went nowhere after the PQ lost the 2014 election.

[–] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The bill is still being debated in the supreme court. A timeline with more details and updates can be found here: https://ccla.org/major-cases-and-reports/bill-21/

That said, the Quebec government has been pretty fucking hostile to people who wear religious symbols. The original article frames it as residual tensions from the French Catholic chuch but a big part of it is definitely xenophobia and racism. Montreal and Quebec City are progressive havens in a land of very small, very white, very religious towns.

Thank you - this is what I'm here for.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Again, i don't really care, i'm providing context you purposely left out.

[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

More like annoying_attitude. ValueSub deserves better.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Provide immediate context is bad. Got it.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

Yes but i have to scroll waaaaay down to the picture only to find it is a picture from waaaay back. I'm not saying you are, but i often find people who have the intention to mislead tend to post it this way.