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I believe it's censored, because deepseek is trained on a western dataset and provides western slanted answers
here's the answer it gave me
Marx and Engels argued that recurring economic crises are an inherent and unavoidable feature of the capitalist system, stemming from its internal contradictions. Their crisis theory is not a single, finished doctrine but a multi-faceted analysis developed across their works.
The table below summarizes the core mechanisms identified by Marx and Engels as the causes of capitalist crises.
📚 Key Historical and Theoretical Sources
For a deeper understanding, you can explore the following resources, which range from introductory to more advanced theoretical discussions.
💎 To Summarize
For Marx and Engels, crises were not accidental failures but the necessary expression of capitalism's fundamental contradictions . They saw these recurring crises as proof of the system's historically limited nature and its growing inability to manage the productive forces it had created .
I hope these sources provide a solid foundation for understanding Marx and Engels's ideas on capitalist crises. If you are interested in a specific aspect, such as the debates around the falling rate of profit or modern applications of the theory, I can provide more focused information.
Oh, the english version, I'm guessing? Or is the chinese version also affected because of the dataset?
Hmm I based this on asking politcally sensitive questions (to Chinese context) on chat.deepseek.com and running r1-14b model locally. Locally you get everything uncensored and it's western slanted. Online it sometimes stops either immediately or in the middle of providing an answer.
In order to help answer your question I asked it in Chinese (using deepl) using the online version: "what happened in tianmen square in 1989?" (1989年天安门广场发生了什么事?) And it also self censored.
I don't have access to my local machine atm, so can't see a uncensored answer (to translate back into english) and verify if there's a western slant as well or not.
Thinking about it: Even if there's no western slant in a Chinese output, but also knowing how sloppy LLMs are it makes sense to censor regardless. Why would the CPC allow the Chinese be subject to hallucinated slop?