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[โ€“] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you ever watched all the stupid crapware Google pushes on setup? They force-install 12-20 garbage apps that you then have to go delete. Even then, a user can't delete Chrome, they can only "disable" it - which Google can reactivate whenever they choose. (Although, one could also argue since they can arbitrarily push apps onto phones, does it matter? Like when they pushed "Android System SafetyCore" without consent.)

Google is malware at this point. Not that Apple is any better. Smartphones have all just become this terrible thing at this point, where you're just renting a pile of software that you get to use in exchange for the company harvesting everything you do, and they change the terms whenever they want, without your consent.

[โ€“] brax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I would certainly argue that there is a problem with non-critical apps being labeled as "system apps" and being undeleteable. This was only made worse by dropping SD support.

That said, I am still mostly able to use my pocket computer as a pocket computer, which is far more than I can say about the state of iOS, and just whining about Chrome and Google being packed in is such a non-issue when they are replaceable.

I would much rather see a fight that pushes to force unlocked bootloaders, the ability to delete any apps, a way to get end users root access, etc. There's no reason why a phone shouldn't be seen the same as a computer.