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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That's not it

If the American people and all it's institutions and politicians, academics and public leaders all just stand aside and do little or nothing ... then they will lose their country.

A country is not lost because of one man .... it's lost because everyone just gave up and allowed it to be lost

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think a big part of the problem is that we've made a place that isn't worth saving long before Trump came along to loot its corpse.

Let's go back to normal so the normal politicians can tell us the economy is great as we live in subsistence with no time or wage to live lives, where we're murdered for private profit with government's blessing, where millions of Americans die of homelessness as other Americans condemn their very existence for lowering property values. Trump is dandy with all that, but that's been the US under both parties my entire life.

We haven't lived in a society for as long as most everyone here has been alive, just a rigged competition against one another to the death for capitalist scraps.

Then you tell us the Fascists are here and we should... Risk our lives to... save that cesspool of avarice and casual sociopathy? Because people other than the poors are in the shit now?

This is the consequence of the hyperindividualist and avarice stoking values of the US, values our people are still miles away from abandoning no matter how much they get hurt by it, because they want to be a big winnah one day. We made a place where it was everyone out for themselves. Those values poisoned any sense of nobility towards this cesspool.

Here's a dark reality, not individually but as a nation, given our actions and practiced values? Donald Trump, who I voted against out of harm reduction for the record, is the PERFECT representative of the United States. It's like the US took human form. He's an accurate caricature of all we are, all we value, and all we idolize in practice.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

He's an accurate caricature of all we are, all we value, and all we idolize in practice.

Not to me though. To me he symbolizes a raging brain tumor

[–] sigmabot@crazypeople.online 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

theres no legal recourse so id love to hear what you think they should do?

if the laws dont apply to that one man, then yes the country can be lost because of him - and it has been. this turd needs to be flushed at this point.

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean he's fragrantly ignoring a supreme court order. at this point law enforcement agencies are complicit for not doing anything. I really think there are no boundaries left for trump to increase his personal power.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

at this point law enforcement agencies are complicit for not doing anything.

No...

That's if/when the SC finds them in contempt and orders arrests.

Which is literally "another point" after where we're at now

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Illegal recourse, obviously.

"Those who make peaceful reform impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The country as we know it is lost regardless. Whether it collapses by despot or by bloody civil war, there's no going back to the ways things were.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Oh it's so simple! All we gotta do is get everyone on the same side... Oh wait... That's impossible because of just 1 man.