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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (18 children)

I can name several historic US riots which were not justified.

The Tulsa Massacre of 1921.

The series of riots occurring after the removal of confederate statues in the last decade.

When men marched with torches and firearms after the inauguration of Barack Obama.

During the BLM movement a white couple was charged with Arson of a restaurant as they were trying to delegitimize peaceful protests.

Meanwhile the most successful social movements were not accomplished with violence at all. Women suffrage, equal rights for protected classes, gay marriage, etc. Some movements had a mixture of peace and violence, such as rights to unionize, but far more effective than riots were the affected workers like miners and industrial manufacturers striking.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The suffragettes were badass, they did firebombings and all that.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

I was referring more to the women's sufferage movement in the USA, led by people such as Susan B. Anthony, when I made my comment.

The UK Suffragettes only turned to violence in 1912 after a decade of more peaceful tactics, the organization itself only forming after almost 40 years of unsuccessful campaigning from 1867 to 1903. As a result of the window shattering and firebombing campaigns many were imprisoned and started a hunger strike in which several died, leading the House of Lords to pass the Cat and Mouse Act of 1913 which sent them home to die there after they sufficiently starved themselves to help absolve the government of wrongdoing. The suffragettes didn't see any results until 1918 when women over 30 and men over 21 were allowed to vote. Equality was only obtained in 1928.

Good on them for sticking it out to the end but the militant portion of their campaign was short lived and impotent.

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