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Analysis: Record surge of clean energy in 2024 halts China’s CO2 rise - Carbon Brief (www.carbonbrief.org)
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emissions down in last 10 months of 2024. Very likely that trailing 12 months are down too (not covered in article, but something they will pick up)

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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm not heaping praise on the US they're doing ok, I'm asking why there's so much praise for China, it's getting a hell of a lot of praise for emissions reductions that are yet to show even a blip on any chart

The IRA, while better than nothing,

First of all "better than nothing" are you joking? now I have to wonder if you are a chinese bot or a partisan hack.

Two years ago, President Joe Biden signed a landmark $391 billion climate solutions investment bill — the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). This once-in-a-generation legislation has supercharged the process of replacing our deadly fossil fuel economy with clean energy while investing in critical air monitoring technologies, pollution reduction programs, environmental justice priorities, and efficient permitting processes.

https://earthjustice.org/article/the-biggest-climate-spending-bill-ever-just-turned-two-heres-what-it-has-achieved

It was so massive Europe got worried it was going to take all their green tech companies away

PARIS (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron said on Thursday Europe needed an urgent response to the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act to ensure a future for its industry and welcomed the mandate given to the European Commission to come up with a plan early next year.

So yeah it's a little bit better than nothing, it was super massive.

And what is this?

is a scheme to protect monopoly profits using “climate change as a profitability/relevance economic engine” for the US market, and the solar/battery/EV tariffs designed to make actual progress as slow as possible.

A majority of emissions come from energy:

China is building coal power plants at record rates while the west closes them down and you're unhappy that the US and EU are trying to get some manufacturing back? or even retain what little they've still got left?

Just to confirm: you're unhappy countries with a lower co2 output are trying to manufacture goods?

a scheme to protect monopoly profits

what monopoly lol, china has the monopoly on green tech for like a decade now

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

The IRA was indeed a massive manufacturing development push for the US. It is politically popular to create manufacturing jobs. Pro oil, high interest rate, war policies undermined renewables, and many approved IRA projects were cancelled, because even with domestic credit monopoly incentives, the US is uncompetitive and a full supply chain plan doesn't work when giving each cog monopoly benefits where banking system doesn't buy in to sink projects. Zionist supremacist/ADL sides with oil oligarchy, and after Oct 7th sided with anti-woke, and DNC made sure most pro zionist candidate won. Israel needs the primacy of oil to continue.

Best part of it was green hydrogen subsidies for output. For $20B per year for 20 year cost, offering completed projects 2% financing, at government cost of 4% up to 100% of value, but based on revenue supporting accelerated repayment would allow for $1T of "revolving" projects. A carbon tax and dividend is the most effective climate policy that also reduces FF costs by shifting demand, as well as costing 0. Nationalizing oil industry, without shareholder compensation, is necessary to stop their lobbying/disinformation and priortization of war over national/human interests.

US politics favouring a war on China, and desperate attempts to diminish China, means pure stupidity meant to diminish humanity and prosperity including in the US. National security arguments for manufacturing don't apply to renewables. You have energy independence once you have the solar panels. If future energy expansion requires energy from the enemy you fabricated, you still have coal and oil wells. There is a much stronger national security argument for apparel which you need a steady supply of, if you will start a war on whole ASEAN block. Mild tariffs on China meant to have them invest in friendly US production without subsidies is counter to oligarchist war mongering/oil agenda of US rule, but the path to US/global prosperity. Divisive-sabotage democracy simply isn't working.