this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


Posting Guidelines

All posts should follow this basic structure:

  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
  2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
  3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
  4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
  5. Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

Rules


Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.


Some acronyms you might see.


Relevant comms

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1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards

https://lemmy.ml/u/davel

2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?

Community Ban

3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).

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4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).

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(I have not posted there)

Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I'm not sure how I've broken rule 4

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Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don't engage in.

Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to 'fuck off'.

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Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.

Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML'er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.

This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is... is there a rule anywhere that says thats how the comm operates?

Or are we just all supposed to assume potentially any comm is run by the invisible and artibrary whims and unstated rulesets of mods?

They're not... I don't think they are upset they cannot participate in a comm they did not participate in. That's not the point.

The point is the the princple, or lack thereof.

If you want to have an instance wide rule that actually codifies, in some way, the ability of admins/powermods to ban anyone, from anywhere, for any reason... then that would be shitty, but at least openly and transparently shitty.

Then at least Dictatorship of the Daveletariat would at least be, you know, explicitly stated policy?

... does such a public facing rule or ruleset already exist, and I just missed it?

[–] SoftQuartz@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I was just pointing out that there are multiple communities on the threadiverse that do the same thing, including some hosted on this very instance! A community moderator's job is to grow a community and if a person isn't a right fit for the community why would a moderator want to keep them around, especially if they are disruptive to the community

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Ok, so they deserve being banned for ... breaking an undefined rule.

That's your position?

EDIT: the whole problem here is this person got banned from a comm they'd never been to... for spamming.

That doesn't make sense.

You saying them being banned from a comm they'd never been to... for disrupting that comm... also does not make any sense.

The other element of this problem is powermods (by which I mean people who mod multiple comms) and admins banning people from one place for infractions committed in another, and then potentially daisy chaining through private convos between mods... when said banned person isn't really clearly violating stated rules that have that stated penalty outcome.

That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there's basically just a cool kids club that doesn't actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people ... basically for annoying them or making fools of them.

Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there’s basically just a cool kids club that doesn’t actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people … basically for annoying them or making fools of them.

Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.

You could easily be referring to all the people raging about 'the tankie triad' with this.

The vast majority of the time I look at someone complaining about getting censored on .ml they were either being bigoted or insulting people.

As for vibes based moderation and censoring people for actions in other places, I got banned from quokk.au by their admin for 'brigading' because I cross-linked to a db0 thread complaining about the OPs mod actions. 'brigading' is nowhere in the site rules for quokk.au as far as I'm aware. I am also the only person to have ever been banned by quokk.au in this way so far.

I was banned for 'homophobia' by OP because I complained about his post having a misogynistic title.

You are literally the one defending a powermod who bans people in retaliation, because they got banned from one comm that they clearly despise for being a toxic asshole.

[–] SoftQuartz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

My position is that if you don't like a community then you should not go there to be disruptive. When someone continues to disrupt a community that they dislike it is within the moderators duties to stop that. I support the moderators on divisionbyzero who use that to curate positive communities, just the other day another moderator made a now locked post saying they do the exact same thing complained about by the OP. I also have a reply from Diva saying that the OP has done this same action so I stand by my PTB statement.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ok so you're missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.

They got banned from a comm they'd never been to, never posted in... because they were apparently 'spamming'.

You... can't have spammed a community that you've never made a post or comment in.

... Also, you say you stand by your PTB statement?

Your original statement, the inciting thing for this whole comment chain... is you issuing a YDI verdict.

Not a PTB verdict.

Those two are basically total opposites.

... Are you confused?

Like, just generally?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Ok so you’re missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.

a basis point is a finance unit for 1/100th of a percent, you could just drop the 'basis' and your sentence would make sense.

really funny that you started your whole diatribe about her being confused by botching your own word usage. congratulations

I don't really care about butchering the english language, so don't come at me. usually I treat it with the respect it deserves, which is none. the irony, however, was excellent

I got banned from 27 communities on quokk.au for something which is not in their rules, because they were simply justifying retaliation against me for calling the OP out.

I don't think this is a principled complaint that you have.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure it's not suspicious at all that she woke up her account after 8 months to say this and then leave. Not at all.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welp I didn't bother to check that, but ... yeah.

Very normal, typical active user behavior right there, lol.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

And she's downvoting us for calling it out. I'm willing to bet she'll be offline again by the end of the week.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

oh that was me downvoting you. rather than address anything she said you two were sneering at her for agreeing with me and saying she's on an alt account.

absolutely toxic behavior from you specifically 90% of the time, tbh I tend to toss you one when I see you on general principle.

[–] SoftQuartz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

More bad faith bullshit, I downvoted you one time in this post "She won’t acknowledge shit." You two are so dogmatic about tankies you are attacking me because I disagree with your boys club

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Alt accounts get very eepy, they need lots of time to eep, ok?!

[–] SoftQuartz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Or maybe I prefer to lurk and spend more time offline? What is this bad-faith misogyny directed at me for?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

posts for the first time in months

immediately has dudes looking through her post history to declare her a fake nontypical user account

These people are all terminally online and complaining about the exact behavior that they are fine with when it's people they agree with doing it.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Misogyny?

Being eepy implies being... a woman?

... ???

Also, ... lurking... is an online activity.

You'd either have to be doing it anonymously, or with a different account.

So... you can't lurk online and be offline at the same time, that's a contradiction...

And its also just generally weird that'd you'd only pop in and become an active poster... for the purposes of making nonsensical arguments regarding meta drama.

Sure, its not 100% confirmation that... you're just sock puppeting through an alt account... but its very strange, a very nontypical behavior pattern for the user account of more or less an internet forum.

You say you mostly lurk, but you also have very strong opinions about... the moderation of communities... you... don't actually engage with?

Odd.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I recently got community banned by OP for 'homophobia', because I pointed out their misogynistic post title, I then got site banned w/ remove account from the OP's admin, because they didn't like that I cross posted the link to my own thread on db0

OP is making a big stink over shit he does himself, all of these rules are selectively enforced. people just rend their garments when .ml does it