this post was submitted on 19 Apr 2025
569 points (97.8% liked)

YUROP

2251 readers
2 users here now

A laid back community for good news, pictures and general discussions among people living in Europe.

Topics that should not be discussed here:

Other European communities

Other casual communities:

Language communities

Cities

Countries

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 days ago (3 children)

No. Just because the US has become worse than before and China didn't, even if the US closed in on how bad China is, that doesn't make China better than the US. More reliable, yes, but not better.

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Reliability is a big part of a good trading partner. Also helps if you can be reasoned with.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Cheap (slave) labor is also good for trade I guess. And an authoritarian regime is nice for stability.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

To be fair, dictatorships are brittle, they are 100% stable up until suddenly they collapse.

Just look at assad.

[–] Palerider@feddit.uk 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are you talking about USA or China?

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 days ago

Doesn't matter.

[–] WanderingThoughts 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

China seems to be lawful neutral. Much easier to deal with than USA's current chaotic evil.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] WanderingThoughts 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Compared to USA, yes. Their own logic and code they follow.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Doesn't help that the stupid simple DnD system can't possibly give a decent explanation of the differences between the USA and China.

But yes, the USA is currently more threatening towards Europe and Canada than China is. The USA is also significantly more chaotic/unpredictable/unreasonable/insane.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

On which points do you think the current USA government is better than China's one?

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It seems so since you disagreed with my initial comment.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What I say is that we shouldn't trade extensively neither with China nor the US. Fuck China, fuck the US.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How do I put this: Being under China would suck, but it would still be drasticaly better as they don't exterminate people out of sheer spite.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

The Uyghurs would disagree.

Unless I'm misreading your comment.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago

Relevant username

[–] oce@jlai.lu -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's a different point. The subject was which is a better partner currently.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago

And the answer is they're both bad. Sometimes, even if you ask "A or B?" the answer is neither.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee -3 points 5 days ago

Wow. That's like, one of the stupidest things I've read in a while.