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[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you want a bunch of marijuana smokers on public transit with you? Exposing others to the dangerous smoke and causing such a noxious odor? Even if you ban cars they still are too impaired for things like bikes which cannot be easily done away with.

"Mass shooters at Rep. Gabby Giffords’s constituent meeting in Tucson, Ariz. (2011), a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. (2012), the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla. (2016), the First Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (2017), and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. (2018), were reported to be marijuana users." (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9462911/). They are apt to commit violent crimes beyond just what they do on the roads.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i think this is the only time in my life i've ever encountered someone who isn't an arch conservative try to make the claim that weed contributes to sexual assault (per your argument elsewhere in the thread) and mass murder. did your parents leave you in a locked room with nothing but reefer madness for entertainment as a kid or something?

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No, I look at the actual evidence that marijuana causes violence in things like domestic abuse (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7525024/) as well as being tied to bipolar disorder and schizophrenia (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7084484), both of which cause violent actions. I think that we should support users in trying to get off it and focus on education rather than criminalization but it is dangerous none-the-less.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

correlation doesn't equal causation. weed is very popular and used hundreds of millions of times every day, of course it will be co-existing with all the realities of the world. It doesn't mean that it causes them.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It causes slower reaction times. People still attempt to drive/ride a bike even with alcohol so they will likely do so with marijuana. There is substantial evidence tying its usage to violence and mental illness. That is reason enough to oppose it

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No it isn't and you're a fascist boomer who is pro child-enslavement. That is the logical endpoint of making weed illegal, we already saw it.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or....they could just not sell things that kill people. Sorry, I didn't realize that every AES state is "pro child-enslavement".

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By your logic you would also be stripping people of a bunch of culturally significant substances used in ceremonies etc. Just take the L here you're extremely wrong and this is just entirely a bad faith argument at this point.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First off, exceptions could be made for it in such cases and secondly, protecting people’s lives are more important

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are also mountains of evidence that cannabis has medicinal uses. Guess what also impairs you: Pain killers and any other number of medicines. You just are being reductive and contrarian and crusading against cannabis like a boomer on 4/20 of all days. I was half convinced this was a bit but I think you are actually this stupid.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This post isn’t talking about medicinal uses. We should aim for medicinal drugs to be acquired through doctors with prescriptions, not bought from a gang at a street corner like marijuana. But no, I guess personal attacks are more fun than thinking

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

not bought from a gang at a street corner like marijuana

What year do you think it is? Lmao you are so sheltered and it shows

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah dude I was totally a one man street gang when I was selling sacks to my coworkers that I got by working on a farm

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So it should be decriminalized. Glad you finally get it.

Also BTW "Marijuana" was popularized in the west to make it sound like a brown person thing.

You need serious reeducaation.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

That’s the opposite of what I’m saying. Marijuana needs to be eliminated. Executing every offender is socially preferable to legalizing it

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you also advocate making alchool illegal? (overwhelming evidence of alcohol contributing to violence, domestic of otherwise) Note how I wrote "contribute" and not cause.

Human behavioural problems are complicated as well as their causes. Blaming them solely on substances is dishonest and steers us away from the real causes.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

We aren’t discussing alcohol. I obviously oppose it and also support criminalizing it with fierce aggression but that’s completely irrelevant to this discussion, there are many other things I also support criminalizing

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sib please get on a fucking bus once in your life. You are not allowed to smoke on them, marijuana or no.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I am on trains or subways there are often other passengers with smoke on their clothes, this is still terrible.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

as someone who suffers pretty frequent migraines i can agree that it's no fun when people are stinky in public. you don't hear me calling for a ban on perfumes, colognes, axe body spray (showing my age here probably) etc, etc, etc.

[–] Chump@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m calling for a ban on axe, even if you won’t. That shit is for awkward middle school dances, and nothing else

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

in my experience it was mostly used by assholes to tear gas a whole locker room by puncturing the can and then blockading the door so no one can escape

[–] Chump@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Okay, so it’s for two things

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lmao now I'm imagining Axe body spray cans being used as improvised tear gas devices in a riot.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

god i'd rather get hit with a grenade

you could try it against the cops but it'll just remind them of when they peaked in middle school

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If the smell was the only issue I would agree with you but marijuana causes violence and death in a way that those don't

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

I hate to break it to you but Reefer Madness is not a documentary.