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So the Untied States is officially in a civil war? I'd like people to call it what it is, if so. I'm sick of people acting like everything is normal
Who is acting like it's normal?
Most politicians, Corporate America, Mass Media
The media, for one
Everyone still going to work/school, buying new phones, eating out, etc instead of taking to the streets and demanding their democracy back. There are protests this weekend, but by Monday they'll all be back at work.
So you know... pretty much everyone.
What do you think war is? Civil ones in particular, in the modern era aren't typically fought in pitched battles. It's small outbreaks of violence here and there with communities here and there recognizing authority other than the establishment that seeks to control them. That's modern war. Look at the middle east and northern Africa, plenty of war to go around, and everyone is still just kinda doing their thing during the downtime.
If I ditch work without getting my coworkers to unionize first, I will get fired.
And if everyone ditches work, no one gets fired but they got all of you whipped.
Those who society depends on most are the least free to take time to protest
That’s the point. It’s all or nothing but organizing is extremely difficult and it will cost lives.
To organize I can go in to work and talk to coworkers about pay and their stake in the company. I don't want "our democracy back" because it hasn't been ours for my entire life. We need major structural changes and can't go back to how things were.
I'm not going to unilaterally lose my job to be the only guy protesting on Monday. When you're homeless, absolutely nobody will give a shit if the police murder you. I'm going after their money.
You don't have to list your excuses for not defending your collapsing democracy and the gestapo murdering people in the streets. I've heard them all. Enjoy what little freedom you have left.
So why haven't you marched down here yourself and taken up the good fight? Or are you just an armchair general making excuses for not protecting freedom and democracy in the world because you're too chickenshit to actually put your money where your mouth is?
Guess what, everybody's a hero until it's their life on the line, and then the truth comes out: the average person is too scared to give up their homes, their food, and their lives. A cornered animal will bite, but if you leave it even one avenue of escape 9 out of 10 times it will bolt.
You're right. Enjoy your death camps I guess.
Everybody thinks "it could never happen here" right up until it does. We said the same exact thing learning about Nazi Germany in school. Keep an eye out, because I'd say Canada is probably about 10 years behind the US.
Your conservative party has been eyeballing the Republicans as role models for decades, and you had plenty of Trump supporters marching not too long ago. I've been watching the Canadian war on science since the conservative administration from 20-25 years ago shut down a decade-long study on the effects of UBI halfway through and sealed the documents because they didn't like the results that showed that there were noticeable drops in employment in only two groups - pregnant women and students - and that other effects included improved grade scores and graduation rates, increased college enrollment, and a general improvement in the local economy.
What have you done?
I've heard that one but I'm not American. I'm not solving your problems for you.
But it's interesting that you'll only do the right thing and defend your freedom if the other kids are doing it first.
Then I have a recommendation, keep your mouth shut. Look inward to your own country and the rising right wing power structures and stop being a hypocrite.
You're right. If stealing elections, fucking children, and murdering innocent people in the streets isn't enough to get you off your ass to defend your democracy, my comments definitely won't.
I wish you all got as upset over your government as you did over this comment.
You're just another ghoul who wants to see us kill ourselves is all.
I want you to protest like you mean it. I want you to strike. I want you to use the masses and bring actual change. Why do Americans always jump straight to killing everyone?
Because that's what people keep telling us to do! They say something akin to "You have so many guns, why don't you use them!" So you'll have to forgive the hair trigger, a lot of ghouls out there wanting to see blood. There's a time that'll happen but we have to get the apathetic to be engaged or at least toward our side.
You have no idea if I'm doing anything. The only thing you've seen me do is try to suss out whether you're a hypocrite.
rent = excuses
How many more people will be sent to El Salvador or shot in the streets because of your inaction? Rent will be the least of their concerns. And that assumes you're not the next group the persecute.
You act like civil wars don’t require feeding, supplying, and housing the people involved.
Revolutionaries still need to sleep, and at this point there is no-one out there offering to freely house and feed the thousands of people who would be needed to instigate a successful violent revolution.
Where is your action? I haven’t heard any news about the vigilante maverick out there shooting ICE Agents while somehow remaining housed and fed.. Be the change you want to see in the world before you admonish others for the same inaction.
I'm not American. It's not my job to clean up your shit. You do it.
Buddy, I’m not American either.
Difference is I don’t try and insult people for living under the thumb of capitalism. We’re all struggling right now, and with the way the world is going, it only takes one bad leader for your country to end up in a shambles. When it’s your home and family on the line, I’ll happily eat my hat when you go Rambo.
Do you not pay rent, or are you safely posting this from another country?
They're not from the USA. I'm thoroughly convinced shitheels like them just want to see USA citizens just kill one another in the streets to get off to it.