Everyone seems to poke on the vim vs emacs/gnome vs kde/systemd vs everyone else but it seems to me the most toxic feud in the foss world has been x11 vs wayland. People had throwed shit at it because of their own specific issues and its "slow" development pace without realizing it's a titanic endeavour and the hate and toxicity brings absolutely nothing positive to the table nor the development of Linux & FOSS in general.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's quite a titanic enough endeavour to put slow in quotes. It's been in development for 16 years and only got a stable support for screenshots a few months ago. Does drag and drop work yet?

IMO at this point it is reasonable to say that the idea of having a shared protocol and then making every desktop environment implement the entire display server was not a good one. The Linux community does not have enough manpower to make that work well.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 3 months ago

Wayland replaced a shitty protocol with equally shitty one. So it's still shit, but different.

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