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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If I may rephrase it: Art can be created by an AI only if it has agency and self-awareness (or, more general, conciousness).

Is that necessary though to create art?

Quite a loaded philosophical question, but an important one if we want to talk about the essence of art and the beings – either natural or artificial – that create it.

Do you think animals, apart from humans, can create art?

By that definition, those without a (known) sense of self-awareness or conciousness, couldn't. And yet, we can see behaviour that we would call "art". Be it a bird, which mimicks sounds or invents a dance to impress females, or a fish that draws patterns into the sand for similar reasons.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Do you think animals, apart from humans, can create art?

I wouldn't be surprised if there's dolphin poetry. Most animals simply don't seem to be able or interested, though, the development of art as a reflective practice (as in: the science of subjective choice) requires a lack of pre-programming, reliance on self-reprogramming, that's mostly limited to humans as far as we're aware.

Cats seem to like music in pretty much the same way as we like purring, as in: It resonates with them, but so far there's no cat composers out there, reflecting the thrill and joy of the hunt in terms of music. I'd totally listen to that.