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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So I can roll up to the McDonalds drive-thru, ask for a quarter-pounder, and they'll accept a chunk of gold as payment?

You can get a removed to do that for you, if you're so committed. I didn't say you can use it for literally any transaction. I said for literally anything. And I dare you you to give me gold and challenge me for a thing I can't get, if it isn't something like a sample of small pox.

Or do I need to exchange it first?

Not like Bitcoin, no.

To be clear, I use Bitcoin for legal transactions (not exchanges) somewhat regularly. Would actually be extremely cumbersome to send boosts using gold, funny enough. Probably why people don't do it.

To purchase what, exactly? Or to buy and sell Bitcoin? Because unless you're illiterate, you should understand that was excluded.

Weird how you keep avoiding answering me, almost as if you were a pathetic coward in avoidance. Almost like, eh?

I've asked you what else could there be? What use can it be for people? And the only thing you came up with is "a store of value". Meaning you're investing in something that is being actively used as currency, despite you not having a single use for that currency, because the market which utilises that currency is so strong, it makes investing (ie "storing value with the expectation it's gonna grow") in a currency profitable.

Like I said from the start, the drug trade created the value which made Bitcoin a worthwhile investment. That's what created the value; a market valued in TRILLIONS.

Remember that? How the value is in the TRILLIONS? Or are you just gonna pretend all the data I showed — from fucking Europol and not some niche independent propaganda rags — doesn't exist?

Ps edit funny how you don't contravene the definition of "exponential" now that we checked it, isn't it?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not like Bitcoin, no.

So yes, you do need to exchange gold into another currency before you can use it for most transactions.

To purchase what, exactly? Or to buy and sell Bitcoin? Because unless you're illiterate, you should understand that was excluded.

Try reading again, I just told you. Also how would you buy and sell Bitcoin using Bitcoin... what do you even think that means...?

Ps edit funny how you don't contravene the definition of "exponential" now that we checked it, isn't it?

Given how obsessed you are with being right, I'm surprised you want to just admit to being wrong:

But the value of gold hasn't increased exponentially

So either you picked a colloquial definition that makes you wrong about gold, or you're wrong about it being literally exponential. Which one is it?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"What does it mean to be a currency trader"

It's just amazing how stupid you have to pretend to be in order to keep up this delusion.

You think you have a "gotcha" with the gold thing. You don't. The rarity in bitcoin isn't what created the value, and it's not what sustains it either. That's just a basic requirement for a currency; it needs to be limited.

What created and sustains Bitcoins value is the trillions of dollars in drug money it's used for. Which you can't refute. Well you can, and have, but like I say, it's delusional, I've shown you the data.

Given how obsessed you are with being right, I’m surprised you want to just admit to being wrong:

Honestly, the mental shenanigans you have to pull for this? You don't think Bitcoin grew in value, exponentially? But I'm gonna bet you won't be able to argue that either, seeing how it's definition is "“of an increase) becoming more and more rapid”"

And you don't think this qualifies?

What's your native language man?

So either you picked a colloquial definition that makes you wrong about gold, or you’re wrong about it being literally exponential. Which one is it?

The buying power of gold is remarkably similar to what it was 100 years ago, but I assume you didn't consider the buying power, but the numbers on the screen. It has changed, yeah, but the physical amount of gold you need is rather similar to what it was 100 years ago if you were to want to buy a house. It's like literally one of the first things kids get taught in economics in any decent basic education; how well gold maintains value and how stable it has been historically? :D The value of gold definitely has maybe doubled or quadrupled, depending on what and how you do the comparison, but it's definitely not even a dozen times what it was 100 years ago. Bitcoins value has changed by literally >20 000%. But you're gonna sit there and pretend that isn't exponential but that gold is? :DD

This is just ridiculous how you're having to do all this because you can't name a single thing you can buy with bitcoin that isn't illegal. Despite me proving all my claims and you showing literally no support for your delusional brainfarts and decrying everything as insufficient and just refusing to believe reality, despite sourced facts.

TRILLIONS, remember? TRILLIONS. Funny how you haven't addressed that a single time, isn't it?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

"What does it mean to be a currency trader"

It's just amazing how stupid you have to pretend to be in order to keep up this delusion.

You think currency traders... take Bitcoin... and trade it for... Bitcoin...? Why would they do that?

And you don't think this qualifies?

No more so than this:

But you're gonna sit there and pretend that isn't exponential but that gold is?

I didn't say that. Now you're literally just making things up.

This is just ridiculous how you're having to do all this because you can't name a single thing you can buy with bitcoin that isn't illegal

Except I did. Are you illiterate?

Despite me proving all my claims

You haven't done that.

showing literally no support for your delusional brainfarts

Such as?

TRILLIONS, remember? TRILLIONS. Funny how you haven't addressed that a single time, isn't it?

I have actually, just more illiteracy on your part. Maybe try going back and sounding it all out?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You think currency traders... take Bitcoin... and trade it for... Bitcoin...? Why would they do that?

No, they trade it for money? See this is what I mean. You have to pretend to be a simpleton because your ego doesn't allow you to accept reality.

No more so than this:

I'm suffering from a slipping rib, so you're honestly making me go "my sides" because I chuckling at you.

Gold is exactly the same value it was in 1980.

Like I predicted, you think it's increased in value because the price has gone up, because you simply *look at the numbers. *

Like I said yesterday, this isn't a debate.

This is entertainment.

I didn't say that. Now you're literally just making things up.

Another thing I've said before: you pretend like implications don't exist, because you have to, so that you can avoid the simple things which prove you wrong.

You said "I should check the definition of the word". I did, and just like I said, Bitcoin has exponentially increased in value, whereas gold has not. Do you understand the difference between "price" and "value"? They might seem similar, but they're not the same thing.

Except I did. Are you illiterate?

Apparently so, please, do tell me what that thing is that is worth TRILLIONS, or even just billions? No? Can't come up with a single thing, like I've said a dozen times, but can't address me having sourced that black markets are worth TRILLIONS from a creditable source like Europol. But that makes you ashamed so you have to pretend I'm not right and you're not just equivocating because you're avoiding the facts.

You haven't done that.

Ah yes, because you pretend something doesn't exist, it doesn't? Do you play and hide and seek by closing your eyes, because the others surely can't see you if you can't see them, right?

I have actually, just more illiteracy on your part. Maybe try going back and sounding it all out?

Pathological avoidance. "Yawn.

You can't even offer rationale as to your weird delusions would be correct, but still kick and scream that Europol data is wrong.

" No, it's not mainly used for the drug markets worth trillions that you've proved by Data from Europol and it isn't even relevant to your claim"

I imagine that's what you look like right now.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No, they trade it for money?

Uhhh.... you're lost. Let me help you out.

Me:

To be clear, I use Bitcoin for legal transactions (not exchanges) somewhat regularly. Would actually be extremely cumbersome to send boosts using gold, funny enough. Probably why people don't do it.

You:

To purchase what, exactly? Or to buy and sell Bitcoin?

So I said I use Bitcoin for legal transactions, gave you and example, and you asked if I used it to buy and sell Bitcoin.... Damn, you really are illiterate.

Apparently so, please, do tell me what that thing is that is worth TRILLIONS, or even just billions?

Moving goalposts. Yawn.

but can't address me having sourced that black markets are worth TRILLIONS from a creditable source like Europol

Again, I did. You're illiterate.

your weird delusions

Again, such as?

"No, it's not mainly used for the drug markets worth trillions that you've proved by Data from Europol"

I never said that. Stop making things up.

it isn't even relevant

It isn't relevant to the claim which is: "Bitcoin is bad so creator is ashamed."

To recap, your argument there is: "Holding Bitcoin indirectly funds crime" -- such a boring take. I'll add it to the pile along with how I'm murdering Gazan babies and burning the planet 🥱.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Moving goalposts. Yawn.

Literally from the start I said that Bitcoin is propped up by illegal markets, because it is. You asked for a source, I showed you sources showing the value of drug markets which use Bitcoin are in THE TRILLIONS.

That proves my argument. You then started shifting goalposts. And every time you end up saying something silly, like "Bitcoin didn't exponentially grow in value, or if it did, so has gold", then try to prove that statement by showing data which proves you wrong. :D

It's hilarious.

Again, I did. You're illiterate.

"I said I'm right because me saying how I totally use Bitcoin all the time for legal transactions worth at least like, dozens of dollars, proves that Bitcoin isn't actually propped by illegal drug markets"

I never said that

I never said you said anything. I implied you implied it, which you did. Or have you not been pretending like implications don't exist, but you genuinely don't understand what the word means?

: "Holding Bitcoin indirectly funds crime"

I NEVER SAID THAT STOP MAKING THINGS UP :(((((((((

See how childish that sounds?

Investing in Bitcoin does fund crime. That's a simple fact proven over and over by what can easily be inferred from the fact that practically all of the transactions in Bitcoin are for drugs, monetary value, I don't give a toss if you think buying some booster packs makes even the slightest dent in the TRILLIONS that the drug markets are worth. Not to even talk about all the other crime.

You also have to pretend you said Bitcoin hasn't exponentially grown in value. It has. You claimed "if Bitcoin has, then gold has as well" and showed evidence proving you wrong.

I can't make anything as entertaining, thanks.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

if you use Bitcoin as a "store of value", you're indirectly supporting drug cartels

🥱

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh max comment depth reached, but you're still sore for some more public humiliation? Sure, buddy.

You can't address anything you've said in the thread. I love commenting, because I can talk about the argument I made and how everything I've said has been correct, while you've been fumbling about and now have to avoid literally everything you said because you made stupid mistakes that you're ashamed to admit.

You didn't account for inflation, and just looked at the price of gold while arguing it's value has gone through "exponential" growth? This is hilarious.

You have delusions of not supporting drug cartels when you're "holding bitcoin" (meaning you've probably invested in it after it became popular due to the drug business, but if you had won some from like a esports tournament before it was popular then you wouldnt be supporting drug cartels just by holding on to it, which is why words matter.)

You've also avoided telling me what your native language is. Prolly because it prolly is English and you're just ashamed to admit how stupid you have been. :D

"exponential" indeed.

But hey, I know your ego will force you to come here with some other emoji reply. I've seen it literally thousands of times. I'll keep going as long as you want to. Becuase it's not me you're lying to. It's yourself. You simply cant accept yourself, that you were wrong, you were stupid. It happens. It's nothing to be ashamed of. You learned new things. Accept it an move on.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

"Holding" =/= investing

Using =/= holding.

I've asked a few times now, what's your native language? Can't be English, can it?

"Exponential" has a meaning as well. Remember when you told me to check it, and I did, and then you still stomped your foot about how Bitcoin didn't have exponential growth in value, or if it did, then gold did as well, then you proceeded to prove yourself wrong? Remember that?

Well, that all happened after I linked you proof of how there's trillions in value being used by the drug trade. This means that if you invest in that market, it's value will grow, and the people who already have the largest market portion and are holding the most, experience the most profit. And those people, like I've proved a dozen times, are criminals.

But you can't address any of that.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

if you use Bitcoin as a "store of value", you're indirectly supporting drug cartels

🥱

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh wee got to the point where you've just completely shut down and are just having such a tantrum you won't even inputting words, but have to spam smileys.

"Yawn", like some kid told me earlier.

"Holding" =/= investing

Using =/= holding.

I've asked a few times now, what's your native language? Can't be English, can it?

"Exponential" has a meaning as well. Remember when you told me to check it, and I did, and then you still stomped your foot about how Bitcoin didn't have exponential growth in value, or if it did, then gold did as well, then you proceeded to prove yourself wrong? Remember that?

Well, that all happened after I linked you proof of how there's trillions in value being used by the drug trade. This means that if you invest in that market, it's value will grow, and the people who already have the largest market portion and are holding the most, experience the most profit. And those people, like I've proved a dozen times, are criminals.

But you can't address any of that. You can't even say anything anymore.

Just keep shaming yourself publicly, because you can't stand behind your words, you fumble make embarrassing mistakes, prove yourself wrong with your own data. It's ridiculous.

Let's see how you're gonna continue this tantrum.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think I've ever seen anyone put so much effort into shadowboxing to defend such a boring take.

🥱

I'll add it to the pile along with how I'm murdering Gazan babies and burning the planet.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Like I've said all along, you know you're wrong, and you're just unable to admit it. I've seen this tantrum literally thousands of times online.

What you should do is take the L and slink away, but you wont.

You'll keep replying out of some weird obsession, despite being very clearly wrong about a bunch of things, which I'm gonna list once more.

I proved my claim that supporting Bitcoin indirectly supports drug cartels, (with data from Europol among other sources). You couldn't accept it. You started having this tantrum, which I've been being entertained by for days.

You said Bitcoin hasn't had exponential growth, and then thought that gold did, and then linked data proving yourself wrong.

How much more can you shame yourself man? Just take the L, bow and next time don't talk about shit you don't understand the basics of. :D

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

More shadowboxing backing up a boring take

🥱

Edit because max comment depth reached:

because you're still trying to "win" a debate

Okay, the irony of this one actually made me snort audibly.

your ego will force you to come here

snort

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Exactly as I called it.

More pathetic avoidance, because you're still trying to "win" a debate you yourself proved yourself wrong in.

It's hilarious.

You need less physical gold today to buy a house than in 1901. Yet you cry "go look at the definition of the word 'exponential'". I genuinely can't make up stuff this hilarious. And you keep giving me more.

So, I have proved and sourced my claim and all you can do is spam immature garbage. Does it make you feel like a winner? ;>