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Feel free to use this a megathread for the US/Israeli war on Iran.

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[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The first thing to die in war is the truth.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 weeks ago

Truth and more than 80 elementary school girls.

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Of course, but it wouldn't make sense to lie about this, either way he was a 86 year old, and I'm not going to pretend that the Iranian regime was a paragon of freedom.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

That regime has been practicing for this very day for DECADES. They have plans B, C, D, E, F, and G on the books.

[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In this case, truth primarily in the form of marriage advice. Have you seen his actual posts?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hard to grab good examples in the current state of his Telegram/Twitter/etc. apart from the famous ones like "woman is a flower" and the ones about never ever being mean to your wife (man was a great strategist). This is the vibe though:

I have some older articles saved regarding misconceptions about Iranians having the ISIS misogyny thing going on. Great examples in there. I will dig those up and ping you when I post them. Also should repost stuff like Booker Omole's thoughts on their revolution.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Those are really sweet spirited. I wonder how he was IRL.

Edit also thank you. Sorry. They made me want to cry.

[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They really are, when I checked out the discussion group for his official Telegram chat, the stuff people were posting surprised me because it was all flower-themed, intensely so. Pink and red petals everywhere. Of course currently it is very death to America but the aesthetic for that is on point as well:

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 3 weeks ago

I saw that. Extremely appropos.

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Who knows. Lots of people who do bad things can be personable, it's one of the many weird things about humans.

[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bad things like delaying the development of a thermonuclear anti-Tel Aviv device. For sure for sure

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More nukes are never good and the fact that rearming is on the table for most nations shows how awful the general state of international relations is. Obviously the biggest culprit for the state of affairs is the United State.

[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is antiquated cold war nuke mysticism. We have seen with the Ukraine conflict that both sides having nukes closes off higher escalation options (which is good because the conflict is more contained and the U.S. is afraid to do quite as much direct, open terrorism not under Ukraine's own flag). We have seen the DPRK stay safe and snug while RoK repeatedly tears their pedophile dictators apart in the streets for sport. Why shouldn't we all have nukes? I can make a better argument to my government than you can make to me. 😁

You want to denuclearize. Okay, I want a classless society. You want to know how we get there? Global one party nuclearized state.

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml -5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't need to waste my time talking to you because you like arguing not using dialectics to come to a new and better conclusion you're more concerned with owning your opponents (in the truest sense of the word) than building a better a better world, you're a symptom of the system you live in.

[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Under the current circumstances encouraging people to get nukes should be a priority for their survival, since the US is not going to let them develop a civilian nuclear program anyways! Whether or not this is "bad" morally to you or it makes you scared is frankly irrelevant to me so I'm sorry if I didn't respond on exactly the same terms. I'm trying to be constructive I promise mostly kinda and a little joking around. Let off some steam. Bro thinks he is Hegel

I will add you probably live in a country with nukes and I don't, which might explain my sense of urgency here! Maybe not just going based off fediverse stats

Do I need to add why countries nuclearizing is important for dealing with climate change?

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Dialectical materialism is unconcerned with morality, I don't like nukes either, they freak me out, but if having some is necessary for people to not be terrorized then my feelings don't matter.

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

No I mean the cleric