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[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s amazing to me that he’s still alive, and lives in Las Vegas with a wife and kids. Like somehow he has a “normal” life on top of his climbing insanity.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Seriously. Doing that shit when you have a kid is nuts to me.

Irresponsible with an inevitable conclusion.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think there's some credit where credit is due for all the effort he puts in to minimising risk. There's plenty of people that do various hiking/climbing that is at least as dangerous as what he does.

When you consider the climbing level this guy is at, him soloing a 6a route is probably comparable to someone "ordinary" going for a 20 km hike in exposed terrain: It has risk (rockfall, possibility of slipping, etc.) that could kill you, but it's not generally considered an excessively foolish thing to do.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

If you wanna compare it to hiking, it’s like hiking a long distance in the wilderness alone without bringing any water or food or map or compass or a phone or anything besides some shorts and flip flops.

Even for people who are experienced in the wilderness, there’s a reason why you are supposed to take basic emergency supplies with you (and really the most important emergency supply being a buddy).

See: that guy who famously had to cut his own arm off. Also he’s “one of the lucky ones”. Experienced people die in the wilderness every year, just like experienced free climbers die.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Minimizing risk", if you're not psychic, involves safety gear.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I agree, I just meant to point out that there is a fuzzy limit between when you need protection and when you don't. Consider the story (unsure if true) about when someone scolded Tony Hawk for carrying his child while skating down the street: For most people, that would be foolishly risky, but Tony Hawk is about as likely to fall while skating down the street as an ordinary person is while walking.

Likewise, Alex Honnold does a bunch of climbing with protection, but also does climbs that no one else would consider without it. However, climbing a 6c for him is probably comparable to someone ordinary climbing a 4 (or even less). Even I've climbed some short 4-routes without gear as parts of a hike (never more than maybe 5-10m), and wouldn't have done it if I didn't feel safe doing it.

Of course, I think he probably pushes the limit a bit beyond what's reasonable, my point is just that it's probably not as foolishly risky as a lot of people think.