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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 192 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (17 children)

Disposable vapes are genuinely evil. With the lithium inside the batteries they are significantly more dangerous than throwing a cigarette out your car window. They have chips inside them with metals that can be recycled and they are made of a hard plastic that'll be around for thousands if years. Whenever I mention this to people I know they agree with me that it's evil but continue to use disposable vapes because it's more convenient. I keep telling my roommates that it's massively cheaper to get a refillable one and they always agree but never buy one. Every time I go to the vape shop to get juice and coils I drop off a literal tub of disposable vapes from my roommates.

I'm so tired of people being complacent in this and I'm tired of making this rant. People will get nervous about batteries when they see a phone explode in someone's pocket but they'll throw that shit on the ground or in the trash without a second thought. Just go back to smoking if you wanna throw shit on the ground. It's better for the environment and public safety that way anyway.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Have you seen this shit?

Factory workers test 1000 of these contraptions per day.

it's truly evil.

Human beings will get extinct due choosing convenience over sustainability.

[–] Aralakh@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wtf that's all kinds of messed up

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Welcome to capitalism.

Consume shit that harms you while also harming poor workers and the environment

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

That's so incredibly messed up

It reminds me of the radium girls

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (37 children)

Using it to quit smoking is a good idea, and the only one actually.

But disposable !? FUCK ME this world is doomed...

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember reading somewhere that vaping is more addictive than smoking. Sure it is not as bad as smoking health wise but the bar is set extremely low.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

I believe it, it can have a much higher nicotine concentration if you want it to and vape juice is tasty.

The one saving grace of cigarettes are that they taste like garbage so it's harder to get proper addicted to them. But a good vape will taste like candy even to a non smoker, so you can get drunk with your buddy one night and take a couple rips off of his watermelon flavored vape and exit that night with an intense craving for more, ask me how I know.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Using it to quit smoking is a good idea

Not really. You are just exchanging one addictive habit for another. Tobacco companies have been selling vapes as safe alternatives to smoking driven by social media bots and MD shills, but it's a big fucking lie.

Heating glycerol to make vapor breaks glycerol, a safe compound into DHA dihydroacetone, which causes DNA damage which can trigger cancer in lung.

But that's just DHA. We have no idea and have no testing or regulation of what goes into vapes coming out of Chinese chemical plants. No one is looking at this.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)
  1. Vapes don't typically get hot enough to break glycerin down into DHA. The normal temperature range is 400-450F while glycerin breaks down at 536F

  2. That's an invitro study which is basically worthless.

  3. That's a valid point about Chinese eliquid, which is part of why disposables aren't a good option.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Used to be a pack a day smoker. Personally I don't think it's better for my health, but I don't smell like an ash tray so I got that going for me.

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

smoking was worse for my immediate health. -That's why i vaped.

my allergies, migraines, and other bodyaches settled way down when I switched to vaping.

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[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago

I wish there was a $1/vape return scheme. Like we do here where I live with pop bottles. People would pick them out of the trash to return.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, I'm not one for banning things willy nilly, but disposable vapes need banned. I'd much rather people vape a liquid refilled repairable vape like the kids used when I was young, but even pod type vapes are better. This is just reprehensibly avoidable e waste.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you're familiar with how regulation of the nicotine-industry in the u.s. works then you probably know disposable vapes polluting the streets can be directly connected to the regulation of vape-juice and "e-cigareettes" from a few years back when the fda banned disposable flavored cartridges like menthol.

no more disposable cartridges now but lots of disposable whole e-smoking devices.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it's wild to me that the ban wasn't a blanket "no product may be sold containing both nicotine in psychoactive doses and pleasant flavorings other than menthol or those found naturally in tobacco or intended to recreate the flavor of tobacco may be sold". Like they could've killed those gross flavored swishers that exist solely for making blunts while they were at it.

Like, I don't mind a "buy a flavor bottle and it has room for you to mix in a bottle of one of the various concentrations of unflavored nicotine sold right next to it" situation, but that level of inconvenience is good. It always forces you to choose your dose and means that when kids get ahold of the stuff it's easier for them to get ahold of the nonaddictive version. What we have now is a bunch of e waste that also ensures that there's a lot of access to nicotine for children.

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[–] AmmenDegen@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I vape cannabis. Whenever I go to the dispensary, it always surprises me how many disposable products there are. Some strains it's not even possible to buy them as non-disposable carts at some of the IL dispensaries I go to. I always try to pick standalone carts, but I have also had it where I've ordered a cart online and they ended up trying to give me a disposable replacement without asking.

It's nuts to me that people are buying these rechargeable things with batteries to throw out as a default (it's definitely seems more popular than re-usable carts at dispensaries I've been to). Why wouldn't you want your own device with your settings saved if you vape versus using some random piece of shit attached to the very expensive goop you're smoking? I don't get disposables at all. You start saving money after 3 or so carts if you buy your own battery.

Even worse: if you wanted to recycle one of them many are designed with housings that make it nearly impossible to open them up and replace the cartridge.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Those things clog/shit the bed so easily that I've become a master maintainer of them. But that's pretty much what I did in the army, only with radios.

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Reminds me of that one guy that made a homeserver on a disposable vape.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It would really help a lot if gas stations actually carried refillable tanks. Shit, even the replaceable pods are better.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, they did have the pods more widely available back when I started vaping to quit smoking. Unfortunately, big tobacco companies lobbied to get all the pod flavors banned and now the only ones you can get at gas stations are menthol and tobacco flavor which both taste awful. Disposable vapes filled the market gap that was created and now we have disposable vapes with lithium batteries plaguing the places cigarette butts used to be.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 2 weeks ago

That wasn't big tobacco, actually. Big T fought against the FDA on it.

The reason the FDA went so hard on it is because states had already spent their expected revenue from tobacco taxes and vaping cut into that heavily.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

They're vaping. They're not intelligent to begin with.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)
[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, surprisingly. But it's just vaping now. I started vaping to quit smoking but you have to account for half of gen z getting hooked on juuls awhile back. When those first became popular I was more surprised when I found people that didn't vape.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honesty I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing people with major health issues because of vaping. Vaping gives the illusion of being clean but in reality the vapors are fully of all sorts of nasty chemicals.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

the vapors are fully of all sorts of nasty chemicals.

No one actually knows what is in vapes. No one checks, no one regulates anything with vapes. Walk through a hardware aisle and huff random solvents.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not really, its pretty uncommon these days

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