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We should be able to be pro-palestine and still be capable of calling this a terrorist attack. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of people who have nothing to do with the war that could have been killed in this attack. I work in aviation, for an airline that has regular flights to Tel Aviv, and it terrifies me that I, or someone close to me could've been there.
What is complicity, what is innocence?
Yeah, the flight attendants and pilots working for e.g. Wizz Air are compliant with killing civilians in Palestine. Get a grip.
Israel said they are 'at war'. if you want to fly to and aid genocidaires in a war zone, that's your problem, not ours.
You're aware that airline workers have no choice on where the airline flies to, right? If I get a TLV flight in my roster I can't not go to work because Israel is commiting genocide in Palestine.
Sure you can! Just walk out. You can leave! If it sucks, hit da bricks!!
Go on strike you fucking loser
They actually do. They can refuse to fly there. Israel's victims, those people have no choice.
Edit: I want to back my stance up here with an example of what I did about 3 years ago. I used to work for a small NGO and when I accidentally saw some budgeting spreadsheets and saw how much of our funding went to our board members Vs actually buying drugs and paying surveyors and community drug distributors, I quit in disgust. I took a huge pay cut from that. Like 50% of my salary just gone.
So yeah, I think for genocide I would do the same
I have no idea where you live, but where I live one can refuse to work if it is unsafe. Or you could just object on moral grounds and get a different job. Or you can just keep complaining online.
"accidentally" break something on the plane if you're too chickenshit to walk out.
You can actually. It would be pretty commendable as well.
Actually you can
Most airlines actually have a clause to reject flights to Israel.
Not any European airline I've worked for or have friends working for.
they could refuse to fly to the fascist outpost and thereby put a little bit more pressure on them, but i guess no. it's all fine, they're just doing their job ferrying people to and from a genocidal entity.
Yeah but have you considered that they weep in sorrow and have minor migraines afterwards? Oh the pain and suffering these "hapless", "choiceless" white collar workers have to go through!
So people should just quit their jobs because the CEO of the Airline decided not to suspend flights to Israel?
the person that replied to you already provided one of many examples that people in that position could do. The people that are oppressed, that don't have the luxury of having a permanent roof over their heads (any makeshift camps eventually gets destroyed with the people in it as well by the entity), that have their children stolen from them, whether metaphorically or literally, or become orphaned themselves, etc etc don't get to have a say in the matter.
To equate them to fucking flight attendants that are perfectly capable of taking even the most minimal of actions, which at worst case could get them a slap on the wrist, is absurd, disgusting and vile, lib.
Are you actually this stupid or are you trying to win a world's most obtuse fuckinv knob competition
yes
So the choices are either lose your job or support Israel?
Yep. Support genocide or quit seems like an easy question to answer.
fuck off, a pilot can get another job
You're making false equivalences to give a moral shield to genocide so no actually i should be more rude to you
To compare trying to live and work as a trans person in a world that is hostile to people who are trans, to making the dangerous choice to fly to a genocidal apartheid state as an airline pilot in a world where pilots are highly compensated and in demand? Yes, it very much is.
the US government has a sovereign currency, you not paying taxes doesn't take money out of their coffers it just causes you problems.
not that it matters but i'm too poor to pay federal taxes
In a small way they are doing a little to legitimize the occupation by pretending it as a normal state. However the real culprit regarding the flight attendants and pilots are airlines like Wizz Air who are not only chosing to collaborate with a genocidal fascist regime but also to put their employees in harms way.