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[–] ComandanteCapybara@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Most women don't want to wear headscarves, and a few people who do that willingly don't justify allowing religious symbols

I'm sorry but this seems just so wrong to me.

Isn't the ban just about headscarves? A piece of cloth is not a religious symbol and policing women about their fashion choices is an awful idea.

It seems specifically worded to hide behind (white) feminism while just being another bigoted law that specifically targets Muslim people in Europe to scare them and to send them a message.

And I would like to know on what you are basing this idea that "most women don't want to wear headscarves". Maybe most white Western women don't?

Because from my personal life and experiences I can tell you that I've met plenty of both Muslim women and also black women who not only preferred wearing a headscarf, but actually felt more empowered precisely because they could control who gets to see what of themselves.

And don't even get me started on the weird obsession that white people have for black people's hair. So wearing a headscarf can also helps to have healthier hair... In addition to literally stopping white people from randomly touching your hair just because "they're so different!"

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The ban is made for hijab but I forgot the word so I used a more literal translation for the Dutch word which is headscarves. Though headscarves probably fall under the new measure as hijab wearing people would otherwise be able to say it's just a regular headscarf.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

if a white woman wears a headscarf of any kind, she would probably be able to pass it off as a secular one, even if she is muslim
if a woman of color tries, she would probably not get away with it even if she is not muslim
this is essentially a ban on brown women wearing a headscarf, so your title isn't incorrect

Your point is definitely convincing.

A piece of cloth is not a religious symbol I agree. Head coverings in Islam are normally monotone and don't have any obviously religious symbols unless it's a hijab/niqab. So by my logic anyone can just claim it's secular, so this can't be forbidden

Maybe most white Western women don’t? I am from the Global South. Some people are really negative about involving children in religion

actually felt more empowered precisely because they could control who gets to see what of themselves Very good point. Yes, in this case covering your head is totally legit

In addition to literally stopping white people from randomly touching your hair just because “they’re so different!” Omg, I never knew people can be that creepy. Ahh, the West...