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[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

People can report their own deductions, too. It's just not worth it for most people.

The problem is that the IRS "doesn't have the resources" to audit corporations and millionaires. They basically only audit small business owners.

Edit for sarcasm quotes

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even that though, you can only deduct part of your living expenses. There is no food deduction afaik, there is no deduction for insurance as far as I know.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most of us also pay a much higher proportion of our income in sales taxes. Businesses are exempt from such taxes; they are only paid by the end user.

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's absolutely not true. Businesses pay sales taxes, too. Nonprofits/churches/etc are exempt, but otherwise, every transaction is taxed.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

No, that's incorrect. I am very well aware of this. Businesses only have to pay sales taxes on purchases for which they are the end user. They'll pay sales taxes on their office supplies and services provided to the business. But manufacturers do not have to pay sales taxes on the raw materials they purchase. Retailers do not pay sales taxes on wholesale purchases they make for resale. Only the end-user pays the sales tax on a purchase.

I work with a couple vendors that do not collect sales tax at all. They only sell B2B, and they only sell to businesses who provide them with a sales tax exemption certificate.

What you are describing is more akin to Europe's VAT system. Still, under VAT, everyone in the chain pays VAT, and each vendor remits the collected VAT to the tax authority. But, the business-buyer reclaims that VAT from the tax authority if they are not the end-user of the purchased product. Everyone but the end user can reclaim their VAT payment.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

Which is ass backwards. Audit those with the highest amounts and they made way more money. It's proven it worked that way until they cut funding for it

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure I read that auditing the wealthy is a huge profit center for the IRS, because they find people who aren't paying what's owed. Naturally conservatives (of any party) hate this and gut it whenever possible

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, if you look at the numbers it's obvious. But libertarians don't let facts get in the way of a good narrative.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Auditing in general is profitable, but it's mostly due to it being automated for people that aren't making 7 figures. Auditing the not absurdly wealthy is also generally a positive revenue. Auditing the extremely wealthy tends to not be a great net benefit as the costs of lawyers and court time outweighs the settlement check at the end. There's an argument to be made it's worth the cost to ensure the ultra wealthy do actually pay though.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's billions of dollars of tax "avoidance", cheating, and simply not paying. Unfortunately, the wealthy who are calling the shots don't really want to pay millions for IRS lawyers