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Feel better? Palestinians “aren’t getting their own state”? Like… the one they had before we unceremoniously located the Zionists in Palestinian land? There’s no discussion here. Israel is a genocidal government owed nothing. Sky daddy privileges don’t count.
This is what I'm talking about campist fantasy. If you read my post as supporting Israel, you need to take reading comprehension classes. Or at the very least stop actively trying to read the worst take you can in the writings of others.
Like, I'm sorry. But reality check. Israel is a nation with a thermonuclear arsenal. Owing, deserving, privilege, etc are irrelevant concepts here.
Again, I try to live in the real world. You're living in some fantasy dream world where millions of Isrealis are just going to give up their homes, voluntarily become stateless and homeless, and go...where exactly? You can say, "fuck them. That's not my problem. Zionists deserve nothing." And morally, you would be right. But you won't actually be doing anything productive. They can point at their nukes and say your concerns aren't their problem. Millions of people armed with nukes are not just going to make themselves stateless.
Again, there are three possibilities for the future of the Palestinians. If you're still pushing for a two state solution, you are actively hurting the cause of Palestinian rights, clinging to a fantasy that has been dead for a generation. Wake up. Sober up. Face the music. Start working for actual progress. The best case scenario for the future of the Palestinians is full integration and citizenship into a multi-ethnic multi-religious united Israeli state. The only other possibilities for the Palestinian population are genocide or perpetual apartheid. You are on the side of genocide and endless apartheid by refusing to acknowledge the reality of the world.
Hard agree. The two state solution was always a smoke screen for Israel to be like "Okay, we'll give you you're own state BUT ONLY IF the following impossible to agree to or maintain stipulations are met." Then, once the impossible stipulations are not met, Israel says "You didn't meet the stipulations, we're resuming war/annexation". Rinse and repeat until the genocide situation we have now.
You can advocate for Palestinian armed resistance, but the ONLY time that has ever been viable is when the armed resistance outguns their oppressors. As you stated, there is ragtag resistance that is going to outgun nuclear weapons. Palestine needs global support to resist at this point, and that's unlikely, again, because Israel has nukes and the backing of America.
The best case scenario is Israel and Palestine get the same outcome as South Africa following the fall of apartheid. I don't see that happening unless Israel loses America's support.